LibelDawg?
[QUOTE=BoulderDawg;764306] Also look at Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. These people look down on and discriminate upon their own people. .[/QUOTE]
Bull****. Unsubstantiated lefty propaganda.
Communism didn’t work as a method of governing nations, not because its concept is wrong or evil, but because the way it was implemented was all wrong. It’s a method of government that realistically can only be applied to small, self sufficient communities. The governments that called themselves communist were actually despotic dictatorships, for the most part. The only way communism would work on a large scale was if everyone in the world worked together to make sure everyone had enough. Not just everyone in one country, not just everyone of a certain race or religion…every single person and thing in the world was shared, and everyone in the world worked and did their part to make sure the community succeeded. This would require that everyone genuinely understood and cared for all others, and that no one desired to possess things. This would be absolute freedom, At this time, this is an idealistic fantasy, of course. Most people would say this is impossible, due to how they perceive human nature.
I’m someone who would stand behind the “live free or die” banner. I don’t need a heavy handed government controlling every aspect of life. The problem is, big business has gotten out of control. I don’t need every aspect of my life controlled by corporations and banks either, who get out of control without government limits. Unfortunately, government and big business are pretty much the same thing now. Don’t need any of it…conservative, liberal, republican, democrat…corporate.
I would love to live in a small, self sufficient community, where everyone worked together in harmony with eachother and nature. Don’t need any government regulating anything, don’t need any loans or financing or advertising. Only need for everyone involved to be “enlightened”, as they say. Not being selfish, not desiring to possess things that others have, loving life, working hard, and genuinely desiring to be in harmony with everyone else, for the benefit of all.
Except for parents who are highly educated and can do it themselves, the education of children relies on the whole community. What is the community which is teaching our children in the USA right now? What are its values and objectives? It seems like the overriding objective which guides everything is the attainment of wealth. Who makes the books that teachers use for curriculum? Who benefits from having so many people undereducated and without developed abilities of critical thought? Who benefits from keeping people reliant upon the current system of consumerism?
I would like to believe that the majority of people directly involved in education, the teachers and principles, are people who care about the children and want to provide the best eduaction possible. They need help, there need to be more teachers with greater levels of education, more modern teaching aids, more and better classrooms. Being an educator shouldn’t be something you fall into if you give up on other endeavors…it should be something people aspire to be worthy of. The people who educate our children should be only the most trustworthy and balanced people. They need to exhibit the characteristics that we want our children to emulate. For me, being unbiased, and capable of viewing and expressing ideas from all points of view is one of the most important characteristics a teacher should have. This is a very big part of helping children to think critically, to be able to use their own minds to be their own people. Many parents do enough to indoctrinate their children with their own “correct” point of view…the community needs to provide balance and reason.
Talking about politics in school is appropriate in civics class, as a way of observing how the government works. Teachers of other subjects should keep their views to themselves, and stick with their subject. Religion discussion is appropriate in a history or social studies class, as an acedemic subject, but personal beliefs don’t belong in general education. That’s the domain of families and churches, not government sponsored schools.
Our very youngest children should learn about sharing, cooperating with others, and learning how to problem solve…they don’t need to be indoctrinated with religious and political views.
That doesn’t mean anything. Some of the most brutal, violent cops that patrol the black community are black themselves. Also look at Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. These people look down on and discriminate upon their own people. Same goes for people who marry different races. It doesn’t mean you can’t discriminate against others.
Dude, you have to be about the most retarded person on the planet to think that a white guy married to a half-black, half-mexican woman is a racist.
As far as self-hating/self-loathing goes, totally different issue.
Give me an example with factual back up of Condi Rice or Clarence Thomas exhibting racist or oppressive behavior. (Unless you consider all people to be treated equally under the law oppressive.. :rolleyes: )
Also look at Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. These people look down on and discriminate upon their own people. Same goes for people who marry different races.
Would Bill Cosby be considered self-loathing or just someone who believes that a people can and should be doing more to better their lives? And couldn’t white folks also suffer from self-loathing?
Anybody up for a little liberalism in the classroom?
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f7806f79-bf1f-4bd1-8d33-c904feb71047
[QUOTE=Merryprankster;764335]Dude, you have to be about the most retarded person on the planet to think that a white guy married to a half-black, half-mexican woman is a racist.[/QUOTE]
If I’m head of a school board and a serious charge of racism has been made against one of my teachers the very first thing I’m going to do is take it seriously and treat everyone involved with respect. The next I’ll do is talk with everyone involved to try to get as much factual information as I can.
If you’ve been accused of racism I’m going to ask you to give me your side of the story. If when I say this you start dragging out pictures of your wife(while giving me a version of the above statement) I’m just going to lean back in my chair, close my eyes…and inwardly groan. I’m then going to suspend you from teaching until the mess is straightened out.
You don’t have to be wearing sheets and burning crosses in the classroom to be a racist.
[QUOTE=rogue;764347]Anybody up for a little liberalism in the classroom?
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f7806f79-bf1f-4bd1-8d33-c904feb71047[/QUOTE]
How can any science movie be considered liberal or conservative? I don’t get it? Are we next going to have parents complaining that a movie about bears (or something else) will be political.
Because It’s not science. Half of the FACTS of the movie are straight up lies. It politics pretending to be science.
Among other things, since the film’s release last year, scientists have rejected Mr. Gore’s claims that 2005 was the warmest year on record (temperatures have been receding since 1998), that polar bears are heading for extinction (their numbers are growing), that Antarctica is warming (interior temperature readings show cooling) and that sea levels will “rise 18 to 20 feet,” swamping coastal cities (the International Panel on Climate Change predicts a few inches).
[QUOTE=Leto;764329]Communism didn’t work as a method of governing nations, not because its concept is wrong or evil.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. The idea is incompatible with human nature and every attempt to force it on people has resulted in loss of freedom and the deaths of millions.
[QUOTE=BoulderDawg;764353]You don’t have to be wearing sheets and burning crosses in the classroom to be a racist.[/QUOTE]
No, you just have to have committed the crime of not being ‘liberal’ enough.
I’m then going to suspend you from teaching until the mess is straightened out.
I’m going to guess then, that you have no leadership experience. You just told that teacher, and everybody that works for you, that you will presume they are guilty.
The RIGHT response is to investigate it seriously, and leave the teacher on duty while transfering the student to another class. If the parent *****es, you simply say that nothing has been proven yet and that you will not presume guilt on such a serious charge.
Secondly, by suspending them you’ve attached the stink of poor conduct to them. NICE WORK! Even if the accusations are baseless you’ve successfully managed to professionally and socially cripple them in the community!
About the only situation(s) that I could think of that might warrant immediate suspension pending investigation is sexual assault or physical assault of a student (and I think every teacher would agree with that), since safety of the students comes first.
And while I will cede that it is not IMPOSSIBLE for a white racist to marry a half-black, half-mexican woman, you have to admit the probability is pretty darn low.
Finally, where did I say that was his ONLY defense? It was just one more piece of the pie.
Incidentally, the parent in question pursed her lips when he pointed out the pictures on the desk, said “they aren’t black,” and left without a word.
[QUOTE=Fu-Pow;764183]We should have let the South secede from the union and we all would have been better off. Although we’d probably have a hostile Southern neighbor.
FP[/QUOTE]
are you kiddin? southern chicks are haaawt! i love a nice Georgia peach. and the accent…good lord… 
[QUOTE=rogue;764347]Anybody up for a little liberalism in the classroom?
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f7806f79-bf1f-4bd1-8d33-c904feb71047[/QUOTE]
eco friendly courier firms and ethanol producers sponsor screenings?
sounds like the work of corporate oppportunists than liberals…
Condi Rice
Suprised he did not use the word uncle tom…:rolleyes:
You can’t force communism on people, that’s the whole point. When you try to, it’s tyranny, despotism, not communism. That’s what the Soviet Union was.
It’s living completely in harmony with you fellow man. That was the original appeal to all those people who revolted against their old governments…they promised that everyone would be treated as equals, that no one would go hungry, that no one would suffer or be lacking. It ended up being that everyone was hungry and lacking, and basically treated as slaves to the corrupt government, who’s only concern was competing with capitalism and conquering territory. The whole idea of the “commune” is that it is self contained, not needing to compete for resources, providing everthing it needs for itself.
It’s a beautiful concept that won’t happen on a large scale until most everyone in the world wants to live that way. It’s not a way of living that is compatible with hatred, war, aggression, violence, or selfishness. That would be “heaven on earth”, where there is no more war, everyone has everything they need, and everyone is satisfied to live in harmony. Everyone has everything they want, because people are “enlightened” enough not to want too many material things. Most people probably believe this can never happen. That’s fine.
That certainly isn’t ever going to happen if we keep teaching our children that it is correct for them to desire so many worthless material possessions, that life is about fighting and competing for things, that the way to be happy is to collect as much stuff as you want, without regard for anyone or anything else. That the only way to get this “stuff” is to take it from people who aren’t as “good” as you.
Without ever saying it, that is how people indoctrinate their children, because these beliefs are firmly implanted in themselves, and their parents, and so forth. It is not human nature…it is just how people have been living for a long time, as long as anyone can remember. If the world is really going to change and become a better place, this indoctrination has got to stop, and children need to be taught a better way of thinking about life in general. We, as a whole, have all the knowledge and resources we need to overcome almost all the issues the world faces right now. The folks in charge just need to be willing to let go of some of their precious “stuff” for the good of the earth and all humanity. Hopefully when our children, or our children’s children become the ones in charge, they will be more “enlightened”.
I’m going to guess then, that you have no leadership experience. You just told that teacher, and everybody that works for you, that you will presume they are guilty.
I was told by one of my kids principles that one of his main priorities were his teachers and staff. While I can say that he didn’t back them blindly, he did make clear that he had to back them up first. It makes sense since you don’t want a bunch of unhappy staff and a school with a lot of turnover in teachers.
[QUOTE=Merryprankster;764368]About the only situation(s) that I could think of that might warrant immediate suspension pending investigation is sexual assault or physical assault of a student (and I think every teacher would agree with that), since safety of the students comes first.[/QUOTE]
Even as a parent I’d say the safety of the teacher is also a priority, it’s even in the student handbook. A friend of mine who is a high school teacher is teaching other teachers self defense that they can use and still be within the county guidelines. Over the school year even the more liberal teachers have been in regular attendance as there were two incidents on the campus. A school should be safe for the students and staff.
Even as a parent I’d say the safety of the teacher is also a priority,
Concur. I didn’t mean to suggest that a teacher’s safety wasn’t important.
That certainly isn’t ever going to happen if we keep teaching our children that it is correct for them to desire so many worthless material possessions, that life is about fighting and competing for things, that the way to be happy is to collect as much stuff as you want, without regard for anyone or anything else. That the only way to get this “stuff” is to take it from people who aren’t as “good” as you.
This is utter claptrap garbage. It is a excellent thing to teach your kids that life is about fighting and competing for the things you want. It’s presumptuous to think everyone has to be the same and as good as each other.
I can’t stand this kind of communism bullsh!t. It’s so weak.
[QUOTE=Leto;764406] It’s a beautiful concept .[/QUOTE]
No, its not. Its an abomination on the order of “wouldn’t it be sweet if a human could give birth to puppies?” Humans don’t work that way, and the demented fantasies of idiots won’t change that fact.