Check This Out!

This makes me so sick, I KNOW it will make some of you very ****ed, it was almost enough for me to go kick a touchy huggy hippie in the nutsack on sheer principle.

Read about the Breaking Down the Wall Program secretly used in the Santa Cruz schools and how they got caught, a real life behavior control program done in secret and without the permission of the children, there parents or gaurdians.

http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/issues/Family-autonomy/breakwall/index.html

If that did not work try the home page and go to the Rally Link for the story and its links, its a big story, a number of papers have covered it.

http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/index.html

What would you do if your kid was involved???

How does something like this get started?

hey dude, peace mahn… link dont work man, hehe

Link is fixed.:slight_smile:

You will be assimilated.

Resistance is Futile.

i read the contents so far, i have to disconnect pretty quick, i live in canada and am broke as hell so right now am not worrying about losing my property, I rent.

I can see how loss of property would urk you, what is thier position on the pros of this bill?.

Disgusting but expected.

You had to know this was coming when D.A.R.E. started teaching kids to rat out their parents. Ever since the 60’s generation has come to power they have tried to prevent people from making the choices they did and turn the USA into a giant nanny state.
Then you’ve got the same groups of right wing god ol’ boys that have been around for years who want to dumb you down to where you are nothing but a servant to the government and the big companies that controls it.

Realistically, I can see this happening in a big corperation as a way to ensure loyalty in their employees and promote teamwork because they’ll claim revealing your “secrets” is bonding or some crap like that.

It’s a “Brave New World.”

Somma anyone?

“Disgusted but expected”-

Thats the right way to put it. It kinda reminds me of the Bentley Little horror novel the “Store”.

diego-???

MerryPrankster- :smiley:

Royal-???

Read Brave New World–you’ll get the Soma reference, if you didn’t already :slight_smile:

I’m so glad I’m an Alpha + +… :slight_smile:

Read the book “A Brave New World” by Alex Huxbly (sp?)

It describes a world where all is controlled by the government, and everyone is genetically created in test tubes for specific rolls in society, and then brainwashed to love accept and feel suprior to all others in society. Then, to keep every one calm and complacent they are issued a drug called Somma.

The charecters feel that Somma is a nescessity, and without it one would be angry bitter and miserable. It’s an addictive, but physically harmless drug that the government gets everyone dependant on for mass mind controll purposes.

Read the book, many feel it is the blue print the Liberals are trying to build our society on.

It was required reading in my High school (Public of course). They tried to convince us that it was a utopian society, and the main charector of the story brought nothing but pain and misery to himself by bucking the system.

I saw it in a contrarian way though, and it has instilled a fear of such things in me. I guess I’m a born rebel.

I have a copy of it somewhere still, as a warning of things to come :eek:

Huh Royal, that’s funny. It was always presented to me as being a social satire–what happens when social engineering is carried too far.

I swear when I start teaching the kids are going to hate me…

LOL!!!

I guess my teacher had and “Agenda” maybe?

It’s certainly possible your teacher had an agenda. I rapidly learned to write what my Public Policy teacher wanted to hear in College.

But the kids will hate me because the first essay question will be about supporting one side of an argument, and then the 2nd will be about supporting the other. I don’t give a crap about their personal feelings–I want them to be able to develop an argument.

Introduce them to Kung Fu online

They can get to see all of the “right” ways to justify their positions, and the wrong ways as well.

You can have them practice defeting those with inferior argumenative skills as extra credit.

Oh,

You may want to have them study Ralek too. I know he’s been an education for me!!!:eek:

I’ve had my share of professors with agendas. I chose to fight them, and frankly I won each time. School is there to teach you to think. Remember Logic and Rhetoric? Well, they stopped teaching those before I got to college, ******. But it didn’t stop me from learning.

Frankly the distinctions between liberals and conservatives in this country are silly, and largely meaningless.

Follow the money, and you’ll learn the purpose of our voluminous laws. Frankly, in a world where low tech terrorists can significantly disrupt complex societies, I wonder if the old American liberal dream (ie libertarian) has had it’s day. How can you insure security without a little intrusiveness? And if we accept this intrusiveness, who will watch the watchmen?

Well he taught me why so many people didn’t like BJJ.

I was never sure what to make of the end of Brave New World. So the guy kills himself…so what? Was it a way to say that individuality cannot survive in a conformist world? Japan has a hard enough time with that–didn’t need a book :slight_smile:

MonkeySlap Too–arguing and winning with your teacher is one thing–been there, done that. But it was too much of a hassle to deal with the paper writing. So I sell out for a few pages so I can do something I want to do–like write my Nietzsche paper, which I loved doing. Certainly an acceptable sacrifice.

Logic and Rhetoric AREN’T taught. Neither is civics or the Western Cannon. All of these are sorely needed but are lost in an age of “fruit for fun and profit.” Don’t laugh–my little brother is taking this course for credit at University of Florida.

Hey, I’m in no way in favor of using public schools as a place for sociological experimenting, and I think that self-esteem claptrap takes up WAY too much time in the classroom these days…

BUT…this is hardly an unbiased piece of news reporting. Any website that links to WND is, by my thinking, a little predisposed to find a liberal “social-engineering” conspiracy in anything they don’t like.

Don’t get me wrong. This program seems like an utter waste of time, but the “Freedom 21 Santa Cruz” site seems a little hysterical about it. Did you follow the links and read the questions? “Are you a good kisser” and “do you have a friend who is gay” hardly constitutes a “secret behavioral control exercise that…has students publicly confess their sexual behaviors.”

Settle down, you John Birchers.


Rev. Tim

Rev–no argument. It’s certainly a biased website :slight_smile:

heh. I remember driving through Indianas once and seeing a sign that said “US out of the UN!”

I couldn’t help but wonder about that. Frankly, the UN is flawed, but the world really is better with it than without it.

Yeah, that sight was a bit of a screed, but at the same time if it was my kids and the schools were violating the law by not allowing me to review what they were up to, well I’d be a little ****y too.

What’s WND?