Would you trust your Wing Chun punches for power or fall back on boxing techniques in fear of not hitting hard enough?..
Yes, I would. Knowing that my punches are connected to the ground through my center and footwork, and that power is generated through that connection regardless of style, and that WC is about structure which allows for better transmission of power generated from the ground to the point of contact (center of opponent), then I would say that I’m quite confident that my WC punches are more effective than any other punch that I could throw.
Clearly this thread is in response to my story on another thread…if I was as good in Wing Chun then as I am now…(that fight took place quite a few years ago)…I might have taken the first man out with a phoenix knuckle wing chun strike to the carotid or something…
but the boxer’s uppercut as a response to the attempted headlock from the second man…
NOW THAT’S ANOTHER STORY!
It was a perfect choice as a move to use at that moment.
Hey Ernie, Anerlich, Dhira, Terence, AndrewS, etc…
DO I SMELL ANOTHER WING CHUN/MMA THREAD COMING DOWN THE ROAD?
Hey! Why don’t we hijack this thread and turn it onto one?!
Now,you’re looking at my question through your personal lenses!..
It is a valid question even if your post gave me the idea. I don’t need to explain this and in regard to “drama thread”…You’re the ultimate!..:rolleyes:
Hey Ernie, Anerlich, Dhira, Terence, AndrewS, etc…
Calling for your little friends?..:rolleyes:
I agree about the uppercut BTW.
Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun
Hey! Why don’t we hijack this thread and turn it onto one?!
An other of your specialities?..Go on!..:rolleyes:
Why not either depending on range and circumstance ?
BTW Victor
How can somebody answer properly if you keep on editing your posts?..
Re: Would you trust your Wing Chun in a street confrontation?
Originally posted by old jong
Would you trust your Wing Chun punches for power or fall back on boxing techniques in fear of not hitting hard enough?..
How could I “fall back on boxing techniques” if I’ve never trained boxing?
Someone who actually studied boxing once said I move a lot like a boxer. To which my smart-aleck reply was immediately: “Of course, because I am boxing … Southern Chinese Boxing, that is.” ![]()
Currently, at a week post-op for knee surgery (ACL reconstruction, partial menisectomy), I’m not doing too much moving at the moment. ![]()
Re: Re: Would you trust your Wing Chun in a street confrontation?
Originally posted by Tom Kagan
Currently, at a week post-op for knee surgery (ACL reconstruction, partial menisectomy), I’m not doing too much moving at the moment.![]()
Boy, can I relate! Recovering from yet another partial meniscectomy myself. At least we can still try and exercise the mind. ![]()
Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery!
Regards,
- kj
Re: Re: Would you trust your Wing Chun in a street confrontation?
Originally posted by Tom Kagan
Currently, at a week post-op for knee surgery (ACL reconstruction, partial menisectomy), I’m not doing too much moving at the moment.![]()
Yow! I hope all is well and the recovery is smooth.
-Levi
How could I “fall back on boxing techniques” if I’ve never trained boxing?
Mimicking boxing would have been a better way to formulate it. Put two little boys in a schoolyard fight and they will most of the times try to imitate boxing.It is natural.
All the best with your knee Tom!
Old Jong-
I have complete faith in my wing chun punches etc in case of a real confrontation. I know what boxing punches are.
The platform and motion chain of those two activities are quite different.
Superficially some punches may look similar but in fact the engines and chain of power are quite different.The learning curve of boxing is faster at the beginning. But when kung fu skill development takes place the situation changes…from then on.
Calling for your little friends?..
hey old j
nothing little about me , especially my punching power , wing chun or other wise ![]()
those that have felt can verify :D
in a street fight , you use what ever it takes if you limit yourself to this or that you are a fool , and deserve a beat down
but this being said . i can hit ‘’ safer ‘’ with less risk of injury with a wing chun punch [ not punches ] i hate the chain punch
but explosive power can very easily be expressed through the elbow down vertical punch
the reason i say safer is when you can hit with your whole body
and you deviate from the ‘’ wing chun ‘’ punch and favor a boxing punch , the chances of hurting your hand or wrist are much higher
if you hit like a wuss it doesn’t mater ![]()
now back to you ‘’ little ‘’ discussion ![]()
Only thing little about me is the amount of tolerance I have for kung fu trolls.
Victor, I have a better idea. i say we organize a “Wing Chun Gathering” where we show up to PROVE our theories in person. 6 ounce gloves and a mouthpiece & no talking (keyboards not allowed); and we see who no shows.
Dhira.
Just to add.
I have been hit by ‘’ the little friends ‘‘ dhira, Andrew, and Justin
All have more then enough to put someone’s lights out, with out resorting to a jab, cross, hook
First hand experience is a beautiful thing
Keeps the BS down to a minimal
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6 ounce gloves and a mouthpiece & no talking (keyboards not allowed); and we see who no shows.
Dhira.
----- d amn he said 6 ounce gloves ouch ![]()
would you trust your punches
hi guys yes i would but as sifu wong shun leunrg might say nearest, weopon to nearest target, sometimes it is not good to use the chain punches always, the last fight i had i did not use
chain punches, at all i used ginger fist and po pai technique,which
was tuaght to me,by my sifu randy williams, in a rather hard chi sau leeson i seem to remember, every time you fight be driffrent to the fight you had the last, my technique is depending of what the other guy is going to do hey kathy jo get well soon peace russellsherry
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Hi guys,
Why not use eiher or?
Shawn
Originally posted by Ernie
those that have felt can verify![]()
still verifying.![]()
(..he says, rubbing his chest)
Wow!..The gang phenomenom is strong!..
Dhira:
A wonderful idea!
Ernie:
Agree about the possibility of hurting a hand with a boxing punch - the wing chun punch is safer. (Rule of thumb: Always look for a soft target when throwing a boxing punch without gloves).
Michel (Old Jong):
The body torque using the rear cross will provide more power than one single wing chun punch…if you’re looking for a one punch knockout, imo.
Now here’s the key to understanding that statement - regarding this particular fight that I engaged in…
DISTANCE.
In order to use the straight-forward body motion that Ernie correctly described - which provides power to the wing chun punch…I would have had to have been closer to the adversary than I was…
but the motion used when delivering a rear cross…is a longer motion (and therefore covers a longer distance while building up power from the hips, the shoulder, the feet and legs) - and the potential for power is therefore slightly greater (like the windup of a baseball pitcher with a dominant fastball)…
slightly greater than ONE, SINGLE WING CHUN PUNCH.
It’s more of a telegraph - I agree - and takes longer to recover from than the wing chun punch (hence the attempted headlock was there for the other guy to try)…but the power potential, imo, FOR ONE SINGLE PUNCH…is greater with the cross - AT THAT DISTANCE.
(Unless you’ve got that phoenix knuckle to the carotid really down!)
Which I didn’t have at that time.