Yep, “legends” are just THAT…
what a shocker. word, you know all your faves? All their stories are false too. You know what’s behind all the magic/mysterious/anonymous monks they say they learned from? DARKNESS…
Mo Q , you just know it all don’t you!Master of all systems. :rolleyes:
what really matters
the story of Yim Wing Chun is probably just that, a story. But it does serve a purpose other than hiding the real founder. It stresses that a woman should be able to use wing chun to defend herself against a bigger stronger adversary. To laugh at this story is wrong, but to accept it as history is ignorant. The names of the founders don’t really matter. Their intentions do, and they are shown in the legends. People putting forward alternate stories can’t really be sure of the past either. So we should still take the story of Yim Wing Chun serious, and not laugh it into extinction.
The legends will not die
Punchdrunk wrote: ‘the story of Yim Wing Chun is probably just that, a story.’
That’s right.
These stories tell us a lot. Although they are fictional they tell us about the moral ethics of Kung Fu and other values of the style involved. These are some of the main purposes of these legends. And we must secure that they will not die.
South Paw
[This message was edited by South Paw on 12-16-00 at 02:34 AM.]
Biu Ji you defendin’ WORD???
Is that all YOU know?
Nevermind, I see the problem…
Legend= “popularly accepted but unverifiable”
Believing these stories are even SUPPOSED to be “true” and wallowing in the delusion that casting aspersions and doubt is a sign of helpful insight is THE SAME IGNORANCE.
MOQ,What’s your wing chun lineages? Can you share some of your KF history with us? My WC lineages are from Ken Chung, Yip Chun , William Cheung and Hung Suen( from my brother who learned under Ah suk in Fukien China ).
Hmm… were you asked about your lineages or something? Thanks anyway.
one of my Sifus told me not to talk about this, because it would upset all the wing chun practitioners out there, but hey, this is just a theory. If you read the history of Fukien White Crane(this can be found in Yang Jwing Ming’s book)there is mention of Fong Qiniang who was a woman who studied under her father, the style was Fukien White Crane. She was from Youngchun (wingchun)county, and the style was referred to as Youngchun-(wing chun) Fukien white crane. There is a strong possibility that she would therefore be referred to as Fong Wing Chun. So there might be a Fong Wing Chun, but not a Yim Wing Chun.Unless there is a translation of the word yim which has significance. Perhaps she was beautiful as well? I think this might be upsetting but we all know that martial history is refferred to as traditional history-part legend, part myth.
What month of inside kung fu is that article in?
Always seeking to learn,
Kong Jianshen
Humble disciple of the ancient Boxing Arts
Legends!
Everybody can have his theory on this subject and they all could be valids.But we have to consider the"marketing"value of these "fairy tales"in these times and culture.Many branches of martial arts have some kind of a beautiful story as a beginning,sometimes it was revelation from the gods or animals or in our case,a romantic story!It makes me think of the word… publicity!
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C’est la vie!