why is there no contemporary wushu forum ?

considering there is a lot of it in the magazine

Maybe because most CMA is in denial that they pretty much are just wushu?

good question

We’ve discussed it a little. We inherited this forum years ago and only added our Kung Fu Tai Chi Magazine & KungFuMagazine.com Forum. All the forums were active, so we didn’t make that many changes so as not to be too disruptive to the membership when we came on board. We get a lot of people asking about new forums, and that’s great, but we just aren’t adding anything at this time. Frankly, for wushu, we’re neighbors to Berkeley and jiayo dominates when it comes to wushu forums, so we defer to Raffi on that. At one point, when that site needed to be updated, we offered to host it, but it was declined (and I admire that integrity). You’ll notice that it’s one of the only forums outside this one that I occasionally post on.

Gene, I don’t know why you bothered to respond to what amounts to nothing but vitriol.

How many issues you got golden? In my collection of KFM, there are relatively few articles about anything contemporary wushu. Mostly trad players.

Judging by that Berkeley tournament a lot of people do wushu.

he was jus askin a question dave. chill out. have a brew. drinks on me.

I thought the Shaolin forum was for wushu players. :stuck_out_tongue:

OUCH! MK with the death blow!!!

Actually we run more modern wushu than any other magazine on the newsstands today. We support CMA in all it’s manifestations. In fact, you must see our next issue - there’s a lot of wushu in it and I think traditionalists are really going to like it. That’ll be our NOV DEC '06. Subscribe now. :wink:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;700836]Gene, I don’t know why you bothered to respond to what amounts to nothing but vitriol.

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Never took you for the selfish type DJ. I wouldn’t mind a modern wushu forum either. Don’t practice that, just wouldn’t mind reading about their training methods and stuff. :cool:

Eddie -

His post was a jab, not a comment or question.

actually it was a question

and it doesnt hurt anyones feelings (unless ur that petty ).

and if u look through the magazine u will see tony chen countless times in it (a wushu player) plus on all the tiger claw tournament coverage articles there are discussions on wushu and people seen doing wushu .there are letters complaining about wushu and countless discussions on its inclusion in the 2008 beijing olympics and that is just off the top of my head read into it and there is even more . i wont tell u how many issues ive got as im not going into an " im holier than thou " (***** measuring ) compettition with u …im above that taking into consideration im 15 and u r HOW OLD come on mate grow up .

calm down ,dont get insulted, and learn some humility … for all our sakes

Tony Chen a wushu player? You sure about that? Maybe he has a handle on the compulsory curriculum as a lot of trad teachers do these days.

Anyway, I percieved it as a jab becasue of the terseness of how it was written. It reads as a snide comment really.

No peeing contest at all, just pointing out that wushu is not the main body of the magazine over the years and if it gets weighed up, it’s mostly trad stuff and not contemporary wushu focused although I would say that it is probably the only magazine where you will find props given to contemporary players.

they deserve exposure too seeing as technically they are under the banner of Chinese martial arts.

age has little to do with what’s observable and a lot to do with perception.

fine

im just saying that i dont think wushu is adequately represented on THIS FORUM

anyway im finished arguing if u were offended im sorry

Tony Chen is a sanda player

Most of the stuff Tony does personally is traditional O-mei, baji, xingyi, mizong, and sanda. He can teach modern wushu, but I’ve never seen him do an aerial or a barrel roll (which is not to say he doesn’t do them, I’ve just never seen him do one and I’ve been under him for several years now). I certainly wouldn’t classify Tony Chen as modern wushu. My window to practice modern wushu is long past and it would be a waste of time for me to be training under Tony if that’s what he emphasized.

What’s probably confusing you is Tony’s O-Mei Academies. He has several top wushu people on his teaching staff though like Li Xue, Ding Wei, Gao Jie, Zhao Haitao, and more. The kids all play wushu and that makes up for the bulk of our student body. O-Mei has produced a lot of champions and dominated the local tournament scene, but few of those are Tony’s direct students. Mostly, they’re students of Ding Wei (Tiffany Reyes is a classic example). O-Mei also has sanda champs on staff like Sam Looc and Song Peng, plus four new champions that tony is grooming for MMA (one just fought last weekend but was not familiar enough with the rules yet and lost when his Muay Thai based opponent cut his face open). Plus there’s some Tai Chi specialists like Dr. Johnny Jang and Peng Wen. And we’ve just added two Shaolin disciples, Yanfei and Yanxing. So it’s quite a range.

But back to your original question, golden arhat, most of the members of this forum are more traditionally oriented, so almost every wushu discussions get flamed. If you want to talk wushu, jiayo is the place. Just remember to plug the magazine when you’re over there. Here, they complain that’s there too much wushu in KFTC. There, they complain that there isn’t enough. :rolleyes:

I’m serious about the next issue. It’s got a lot of wushu in it. And a lot of traditional. I’ll be eager to see how it is received.

In fact, you must see our next issue - there’s a lot of wushu in it

one reason good reason I won’t br buying that issue then

Mano Mano, have an open mind

Also reread my 8th post on this thread:

I think traditionalists are really going to like it.
I mean that. When you see it on the newsstand in a month, you’ll see what I mean. Trust me, I know what I’m doing here. :wink:

Gene
I’ve seen a lot of contemporary wushu over the years here in the UK & I’ m not convinced about the wushu one size fits all.
I’d rather do, watch or read about any martial arts that are based on practical technique rather than Beijing Opera.
I’ve been a CLF practitioner for more years that I’d admit to for instance I’d rather watch two high level Wing Chun practitioners doing chi sao to some very boring to watch, but really interesting when you see them controlling & programming where their their opponents next move is going to be.

I think its possible that gene said traditionalists would like it because it has something to do with distinguishing trad wushu to modern wushu in the issue. Or some sort of debate or something… I think you missed his point a bit. Gene, you got me interested now.

What about this?

What if I got some leading figures in the wushu world to renounce modern wushu?

May be, may be not.
If its on the stand I might have a look but guarantee of a sale.