Well,I guess he was not a virgin anymore at that time!..
(Just curious)
Old Jong,
Wake up and stop trolling.
How on earth, how in name of heaven and earth, you can actually become decent human beings without trying to entertain yourself from here to the next corner.
hummâŚ
Asking a simple and clear question is not trolling.
OLD JONG!!! Why donât you do alittle RESEARCH?
Yau who was reading Fongâs first book while working at China Doll Restaurant 120 miles away from Tucson and then visited Fongâs school.
Old Jong please stop trolling. Rolling Hand please stop stalking Old Jong. Yuanfen please stop fanning these threads.
BiuJeeDawg.
I look at his website and all I see is pictures of him playing with those rings! My question is very simple: Who was his teacher before he meet Fong?..Is there something bad in this?..
Rene
Iâm just interrested in knowing where he comes from,thats all! If they canât or wonât answer,well I will just forget about this.
BTW, Joy is my biggest fan as I am his!..
Have A Look At This Website!!!
Old Jong Wrote>
Who was his teacher before he meet Fong?..
If you have a look at the link in the first paragraph he mentions three teachers, I would say the first name he mentions was his original teacher.
http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/wingchun/english/SIFURWintervieweng.htm
Maybe that will answer your question:confused:
Thanks Geezer.
Sifting through the veils of innuendo and half-statements, it seems some people are probing to see if someoneâs first teacher really had anything to teach, which is being countermatched by the other people probing to see if a fight was made up. Both probably already have answers they want to out, one, both, or neither could be correct, but in the meantime, itâs still rather destructive to all involved and if it caused breakups in the past, not hard to imagine what it will cause in the present, and sadly, the future.
Issue
I STILL SEE BOTH ISSUES AS THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. IF THEY ARE SAYING GEORGE YAU DIDNâT KNOW ANYTHING OR LEARN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM FROM AN ACCREDITED SOURCE, LET THEM SAY IT AND WE WILL RESPOND. WHEN THE WHOLE THING PLAYS OUT, YOU WILL SEE THAT BOTH ARGUMENTS WILL POINT BACK TO THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS. THE TRUE âEMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHESâ AS FONGâS BOYS LIKE TO ANALOGIZE.
Tap Man Out
Yeunfa aka Joy
Joy,
Youâre still fanning the coals from something in the past. Hmmm, smells like the poison of âEnvyâ! Instead of making a tasteless remark about Sifu Yau, how about addressing these points that TAPMAN requested from you???
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RANDY WAS A STUDENT OF FONGâS AND HAS PLENTY OF VIDEO AND NEWSPAPER EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT STATEMENT UP. OR ARE YOU SAYING THE THINGS HE HAS ARE FORGERIES? PLEASE MAKE A CLEAR STATEMENT REGARDING YOUR POSITION ON THIS.
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RANDY WAS CERTIFIED BY FONG IN 1988 TO TEACH FONGâS WING CHUN IN SINGAPORE. OR ARE YOU SAYING FONG DENIES EVER GIVING HIM THE CERTIFICATE?
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RANDY PAID FOR WHAT HE GOT FROM FONG. OR ARE YOU SAYING FONG DID NOT ACCEPT ANY MONEY, TRIPS OR GIFTS FROM RANDY AT ANY TIME BETWEEN 1986 AND 1989 IN EXCHANGE FOR VIDEOS, BOOKS, SEMINARS AND PRIVATE TRAINING?
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THE BOOKS WERE DONE WITH FONGâS FULL KNOWLEDGE AND HELP VIA TELEPHONE CRITIQUE AND ADDITIONS? OR ARE YOU SAYING FONG KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE BOOKS AND THEIR PRODUCTION UNTIL THEY WERE DONE?
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FONG KNEW FULL WELL THAT RANDY WAS TEACHING UNDER HIS NAME AND DONATING ALL THE PROCEEDS TO THE SPASTIC CHILDRENâS FOUNDATION UNDER THE NAME âFONGâS WING CHUN SINGAPOREâ. OR ARE YOU SAYING HE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT, AND DID NOT COMMENT ON THAT FACT ON SINGAPORE NATIONAL TELEVISION AND IN ITS OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER, THE STRAITS TIMES ON MAY 17, 1988, ALONG WITH THE âGOLDEN RIBBON BOXERâ STORY?
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FONG WENT IN TO IKFâS BURBANK OFFICES WITH RANDY IN 1986, SHOT PICS FOR AN ARTICLE AND MET WITH CURTIS WONG, INTRODUCING HIMSELF AND ALLOWING HIMSELF TO BE REFERRED TO AS RANDYâS SIFU. OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT NEVER HAPPENED?
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FONG GAVE TELEVISION AND NEWSPAPER INTERVIEWS IN SINGAPORE CALLING RANDY ONE OF HIS TOP STUDENTS AND PRAISING HIS TEACHING AND CHARITY WORK IN SINGAPORE ON HIS BEHALF. OR ARE YOU SAYING HE DIDNâT GIVE THOSE INTERVIEWS AND SAY THOSE THINGS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ON SBC TELEVISION IN MAY OF 1988?
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RANDY HAS HOURS OF VIDEOTAPED INSTRUCTION FROM FONG IN LA AND SINGAPORE. OR ARE YOU SAYING THESE TAPES COULDNâT EXIST, BECAUSE RANDY NEVER HAD THOSE LESSONS BETWEEN 1986 AND 1989?
It interesting that you assume a different stance when you are directly challenged!
Itâs very puzzling why Sifu Randyâs name comes up on the net. It would be beautiful if this would end some day!! But since it all stems from ENVY, it probably wonât. But the issues that TAP raises hold a unique position for those who claim other opinion of what took place in the past.
I would suggest that maybe those who are in disagreement anyone practicing Wing Chun to take a comprehensive look at the history of the art. Thereâs so much freedom for personal interpretation especially if you can make it work for you. This is what Sifu Randy has done with CRCA Wing Chun. But of course itâs my opinion and you know what they say about opinions!!!
Joy,
I have a question for you! Can you tell me anything about the "Golden Ribbon Boxer
i refuse to read any sentance with more than one word in all capital letters. lately i havent been reading much on here 
Hey Joy,
Hereâs a thought for you on Sifu Randyâs alleged plagiarizing Fongâs books. I guess Sifu Randy mustâve left the Golden Ribbon story out of his books:D.
âYau who was reading Fongâs first book while working at China Doll Restaurant 120 miles away from Tucson and then visited Fongâs school.âYuanfen
Yuanfen,
Why Yau?
What about Fongâs own dummy history?
In order to rediscover yourself, you have to look back to where you come from. In this case, looking back to your own mind, to before Fongâs own WCK history began.
Think of an instance when someone called you an angel.