Who is the current head Master of Kwong Sai Jook Lum Gee (Southern Praying Mantis) as appointed by F

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if there is anyone out there that could provide concrete proof of who the current head of Kwong Sai Jook Lum Gee is. It is well known that the last head was Fourth Generation Grand Master Lum Wing Fay. It has been disputed for a long time who Master Fay passed the title on to. Many think it is Master Henry Poo Yee, while many others believe it to be Master Gin Foon Mark. Could someone help clarify this…please? Thanks! :confused:

[This message was edited by steelpagoda on 05-23-01 at 02:33 PM.]

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three words- CAN O’ WORMS

Peace :smiley:

No One

No one!

IllusionFist:

I hear that, man! Thanks for a good laugh. I strive on though…strive on…

As Chris Carter would say, “the truth is out there.”

Sucessors

Well, lets see now.

Poo Yee actually has a document from Lum Sang that says he is authorized to teach what he knows.

Norman Chin has been with the Chinese Masons and JL for almost 40 years and has taught a little.

Among the Chinese Masons are JL Masters who might “come out” and teach openly one day.

And there are those who belong to other branches of JL other than Lum Sang.

Its a real mess with no clear leader emerging from a very congested group..

On a serious note though, does it really matter if he’s the lineage holder or not? I know that GFM is definitely a disciple and was given permission to teach. So i would think that this is the most important factor. I know that its frustrating cuz claims have been made and stuff, but in the end does it really matter? Politics Schmolitics i say… Unless you start talking bout hung gar lineages, then i’ll have to bust a cap!!! :smiley: :rolleyes: :wink:

Peace :smiley:

No one has any document stating they are the successor. There was never an anoucement or banquet for a successor.

Does Big Brother Really Care?

In my mind, what seems to be the most significant factor in this type of online discussion, is that no matter who we are discussing, the real teachers (all of whom mentioned above) never get involved. Probably, they are too busy training / teaching. Even more, they could care less what we think of them (the old “pride/ego factor”). The Art itself seems to mean more to them than their perceived “legitimacy” - even on such an incredible medium to the world as this forum (of course, most of them know each other anyway)!

I am well aware that many real masters “monitor” these lines through their well-intentioned students, but hasn’t anyone noticed they rarely, if ever, really say anything here?!?

Should that not be a very significant hint to us about the value of all such topics?

Just my two cents - kevin

Kevin:

Very well said. I understand what you’re saying. I am pursuing this for myself, and not much more. Thank you for your 2 cents, they are greatly appreciated.

Don’t Care?

Kevin, everything you stated was wonderful if only it were true. The truth is all the above Masters have made outrageous claims even to the point of anointment through devine right through Grandmaster Lam Sangs altar. This is not to disparage the skill level of these Masters. That is up to the individual to decide.

Illusion, Hung-Ga politics? You’re kiddin?Never happen!

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