If your that worried about getting your ass kicked maybe you should find a nice style of kickboxing, San Shou or Muay Thai perhaps. Dont expect to learn how to fight with a style that teaches forms (like Kung Fu) for atleast 6 months to 2 years. Dont choose a style based on the fact that you might get in a fight tomorrow. You might get hit by a car tomorrow or you could die in your sleep tonight. Choose something that you’ll enjoy doing. Learning how to fight is important but you shouldn’t rush it because of paranoia.
Originally posted by Leonidas
If your that worried about getting your ass kicked maybe you should find a nice style of kickboxing, San Shou or Muay Thai perhaps. Dont expect to learn how to fight with a style that teaches forms (like Kung Fu) for atleast 6 months to 2 years. Dont choose a style based on the fact that you might get in a fight tomorrow. You might get hit by a car tomorrow or you could die in your sleep tonight. Choose something that you’ll enjoy doing. Learning how to fight is important but you shouldn’t rush it because of paranoia.
Kickboxing, San Shou, Muay THai doesn’t interested me :o
I don’t look for fights, infact I haven’t had a fight since I was in the 9th grade, I am going to the 11th grade now, my last fight was with a trouble maker 6’1ft.tall, I was 5’10, thanks god I haven’t gotten hit in a fight, this time I caught him while he was looking the other way, hit him in his jaws, he got dissy, and started running. I want to be prepare for the unexpected.
Let’s make this… people who go into the martial arts is because they want to learn self-defense, combat, or how to fight. most that go into taichi are for the healt benefits, some are for other benefits too.
I at first was into Martial Arts because of the fighting, without fighting is not a martial art, there is nothing bad with that. You are not learning Martial Arts to go and attack inoccent people.
Martial Arts is invented so people can learn how to protect theirself and loveones. I would protect myself, family when I can, and people out in the streets who are inocent.
Ya. Karate teaches kata’s too, but they use that move from the kata to block or hit, they do examples of what you can use that move for. I don’t like Karate though. I had taken Karate Shotokan when i was 11yrs old for 3months (yellow belt).
I think you should read up on this since your a newbie and you have no idea what your looking for?
Go here: www.dmoz.com/Sports/Martial_Arts
Its a huge directory. Get alittle more info and get back to me. I’ll help you find a school for sure.
Originally posted by Leonidas
[B]I think you should read up on this since your a newbie and you have no idea what your looking for?
Go here: www.dmoz.com/Sports/Martial_Arts
Its a huge directory. Get alittle more info and get back to me. I’ll help you find a school for sure. [/B]
Thanks…
How do i know what to look for?
Oh right, you need general sites. I got sh!t else to do, hold on, i’ll post some. Gimme an hour.
did you look at the thread on ‘long fist sparring’? its in the general forum. in there, brent (an instructor) is talking about it:
"The techniques you are learning in your forms ARE directly applicable to combat WITHOUT modification, provided:
a) you are learning good Long Fist kung fu,
b) your teacher is accurately conveying techniques,
c) you are doing them correctly.
However, here’s the catch (actually there are two catches). Before you can use them in combat, either your instructor needs to show you the combat applications, or you need to figure them out on your own - both are valid. Then, comes catch #2.
You must train your forms with the application(s) in mind. It takes a long time to train your body, eye, and mind to be able to use these techniques in combat as per form."
thats good advice for any style: good lineage, good/informed instructor, doing it right over time. he makes the point that KF for tourneys isn’t really good, but for self-defense and war, its the best. not a bad observation.
i think you’ll have to visit schools, see whats comfortable and right for you. the VERY best advice is this: sh*t or get off the pot. don’t dream it, be it. choose and GO. you won’t be unhappy with it.
no offense intended, BTW. just saying, don’t worry so much- you’ll get the hang of it.
Originally posted by Leonidas
Oh right, you need general sites. I got sh!t else to do, hold on, i’ll post some. Gimme an hour.
Thanks. 
Originally posted by {i^(
[B]did you look at the thread on ‘long fist sparring’? its in the general forum. in there, brent (an instructor) is talking about it:
"The techniques you are learning in your forms ARE directly applicable to combat WITHOUT modification, provided:
a) you are learning good Long Fist kung fu,
b) your teacher is accurately conveying techniques,
c) you are doing them correctly.
However, here’s the catch (actually there are two catches). Before you can use them in combat, either your instructor needs to show you the combat applications, or you need to figure them out on your own - both are valid. Then, comes catch #2.
You must train your forms with the application(s) in mind. It takes a long time to train your body, eye, and mind to be able to use these techniques in combat as per form."
thats good advice for any style: good lineage, good/informed instructor, doing it right over time. he makes the point that KF for tourneys isn’t really good, but for self-defense and war, its the best. not a bad observation.
i think you’ll have to visit schools, see whats comfortable and right for you. the VERY best advice is this: sh*t or get off the pot. don’t dream it, be it. choose and GO. you won’t be unhappy with it.
no offense intended, BTW. just saying, don’t worry so much- you’ll get the hang of it. [/B]
Thanks, for the welcome 
So you say Tournaments are no problem?
But there are rules in Tourneys, no Rules in a real situation or fight?
no matter who you are, old, young, black, white, no rules in a fight.:eek:
nope
BRENT was saying that tournaments CAN be a problem. other arts seem better geared for that, if thats what your flavor is. (and hey, trophies, belts, and grrls- that ain’t bad).
but if your after some mean kinda stuff, a lot of kung fu’s got it. his warning was that you need to find a good/qualified/informed/generous instructor. sometimes you’ve just got to be patient though. and remember- he also said that figuring it out for yourself is jake too.
having done this for awhile (but no expert, thanx!), i kind of see his point.
and yes! welcome to KF. a great world.
Re: nope
Originally posted by {i^(
[B]BRENT was saying that tournaments CAN be a problem. other arts seem better geared for that, if thats what your flavor is. (and hey, trophies, belts, and grrls- that ain’t bad).
but if your after some mean kinda stuff, a lot of kung fu’s got it. his warning was that you need to find a good/qualified/informed/generous instructor. sometimes you’ve just got to be patient though. and remember- he also said that figuring it out for yourself is jake too.
having done this for awhile (but no expert, thanx!), i kind of see his point.
and yes! welcome to KF. a great world. [/B]
Thanks…
So yea i was just curious, hearing a person say Kung-Fu would be good to go to tournaments.
If he said no, I agree to because, tourneys are rules,
http://webhome.idirect.com/~alr/tkd/index1.html
http://www.martialarm.com/martial-list.html
http://martialtalk.com/ (this is a general martial arts forum)
http://www.martialway.com/arts/index.html (is a different site)
http://www.worldblackbelt.com/Martial_Arts_Styles/Martial_Arts_Styles.asp?SID=M0KR44M40CV419G
http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa092799.htm (this is a newbie guide)
http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa121299a.htm (this one too)
http://martialarts.about.com/cs/artsaf/ (this is a **** good site, i started you off at a-f)
http://www.atlantamartialarts.com/styles/index.htm
Thats all i can get now. I know, i know. Most of the sites are really crappy but you have to find some useful info in there somewhere.
Originally posted by Leonidas
[B]www.fightauthority.com
http://webhome.idirect.com/~alr/tkd/index1.html
http://www.martialarm.com/martial-list.html
http://martialtalk.com/ (this is a general martial arts forum)
http://www.martialway.com/arts/index.html (is a different site)
http://www.worldblackbelt.com/Martial_Arts_Styles/Martial_Arts_Styles.asp?SID=M0KR44M40CV419G
http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa092799.htm (this is a newbie guide)
http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa121299a.htm (this one too)
http://martialarts.about.com/cs/artsaf/ (this is a **** good site, i started you off at a-f)
http://www.atlantamartialarts.com/styles/index.htm
Thats all i can get now. I know, i know. Most of the sites are really crappy but you have to find some useful info in there somewhere. [/B]
Thanks 
Re: thanks
Originally posted by ChinNa
Brent: Which style of Kung-Fu would be those?
<chuckling>
You know, I’m the wrong person to ask. I have a pretty eclectic background, and when I see a technique or principle, I usually don’t ask which style it came from.
Most people will disagree with me, but I consider Long Fist to be pretty complete. This is easy to say because Long Fist (like most Chinese styles) is pretty loosely defined. Point to just about any technique, and I can say “Yeah, Long Fist has that.” Well, most Long Fist practitioners focus on long range punches and kicks.
However, just about every practitioner I have met (that has been around for a while) augments his/her art with Chin Na, and a certain amount of ground work. Chi Kung (another loosely define entity) is pretty much standard with most Chinese styles to some degree.
My advice to anyone that doesn’t know specifically what they are looking for would do well to take up Long Fist. Long Fist is not for everyone, but at least it should give you a broad exposure and a solid foundation. I especially recommend it to tall people.
By the way, if you want to learn something quickly avoid the broader styles.
And yes, with regards to tournaments, decide if you want to compete or learn real self-defense. These goals are NOT mutually exclusive, but the are also NOT the same. This is important when looking for a teacher. Some teachers can teach you to compete, but don’t really know the first thing about real self-defense. Other instructors (like me) can teach you how to end an attack with utter resolve, but couldn’t teach you anything about competition. Most teachers will tell you they can do both, but most can’t. This doesn’t make them liars, just a little misinformed about one discipline or the other.
Best regards,
-Brent
True.
I don’t want to train competition or sport art.
I don’t have time to train in another sport, I have my sport and that is Basketball all the way nothing more, nothing less.
I want to train in a martial arts that is not a sport.
because martial arts that go to tourneys i think isn’t really teaching kung-fu.