Here’s one I don’t think has ever been addressed and one we’re more likely to come across. I’ll avoid how the two people got into it but the person with advantage in the situation is very aggressive, not in their right mind because of rage, alchohol or whatever, and they will try to cause you harm when you get involved.
The scenerio: Two people are in a very bad fight or argument and it goes to the ground with one person flat on their back with the other in the mount choking and or beating the other senseless. You must stop this without hurting the person getting the beating, so how do you remove the person on top?
Oh and the twist is this, the person on top is someone that you don’t want to harm since they’re a close friend, brother, relative or spouse. You can’t leave the scene, there are witnesses that will tell the police what you did and a security camera for kicks.
Kick him in the head and knock him out cold asap. If the camera’s on, you can use it as evidence that you were protecting the guy on the bottom from being strangled to death.
TonyM is correct. Pull him off with a rear naked and then tell him to chill out. Of course, knowing me, I’d probably just let my friend beat the hel.l out him.
Usually in situations like that, the simplest of techs are the most usefull. I would tackle him, and try to keep him from getting back to the beatee or from hitting me, by pinning him down, and trying to talk him down. By the time he gets loose, he probably would have used up a lot of energy trying to get free from me, in turn calming him down.
and while you are sitting there in the rear naked (he-he) waiting for your buddy to chill out, the guy he was commencing to choke/punch out gets up really ****ed off. or another random from the crowd decides it’s time to jump in.
in situations like that you are already in a multi-man whether one of them is your buddy or not. full on grappling leaves you vulnerable to that second attacker. I screwed up several times my first couple of years as a bouncer by going to a grapple and either got myself hit or the guy I was submitting got hit.
i don’t ever back anyone up untill I know their motivations. I don’t know about you guys but most of my friends can be big as sholes when they want to be. I don’t excuse alcohol or drugs, if you can’t handle them don’t do 'em.
punch/kick to stun your buddy…pull him off by the hair and toss him in a corner…keep good positioning between him, the other dude (wife, girlfriend, hooker…whatever) and the crowd. The lecture can wait till you get his sorry ass home.
I’m glad I’m not 'friend’s with any of you guys. You’d honestly kick your friend in the head? Then you’r a bad friend No, but seriously, a full nelson dragging him off the guy would be easy and ‘non-hurting’.
Where the heck is Ben Gash and Gene Ching? So far I’m surprised that SevenStar is the only one to bring up the dim mak option on the forum, if only with tongue in cheek. What about pressure points?
Remember the premise is not to hurt or cause injury to the person. OK it’s no longer a friend but your wife or girlfriend going code red on a rival.
it’s a multi-man situation. tieing yourself up with a grapple, which I will include maintianing some sort of pressure point control as grappling, will not necessarily stop everyone from being hurt further.
Oso, the other person is pretty much out of it and not much of a threat. The techniques have to be fast because it is a potential multiple situation. Also your friend will sue you if you hurt him too badly.
