What do you look for in potential instructors?

“I am a
PARAGON of balance and maturity.”

:smiley: LOL

Ryu

Good one MP…

I have had it up to the gills with Sifu worship, personally.

BeiKongHui
Interesting, being in America and hearing only one side of the story, that you can conclude the matter as both judge and jury. Are you certain you know the truth and the whole truth about this matter ? These issues often transpire mere dollars and have more to do with the individual’s characteristics and traits.

Well, not like your statement makes much sense as an answer to mine but if you feel giving someone consumer advice is being judge and jury I guess that Consumer Reports is the new Supreme Court.
I sense in your answer the typical condescension of those who feel they should be respected or worshipped just because they are a “Master” and (also typical) I’m sure the “lazy”, “selfish” “fill in with typical cop out phrase” westerner speil is coming up next, huh?

Are we all shamed?

After the kid’s dastardly insults to his “master”?

I think this calls for a reading of the Articles of War and a Flogging 'round the Fleet!

I’m 21 and have been training at the school for 18 months now. The reason I want to teach is because that’s one of the things I like to do. I enjoying helping and teaching people and I also enjoy coming up with new ways to present/demonstrate knowledge and techniques so they are easier to understand for all. I didn’t realize that it was considered “early” for me to be asking to enter a program which will allow me to become an assistant instructor after a year of training. Someone who has been training for only 8 months was able to enter it and I started before this person.

He won’t even give me a chance. I don’t understand that. Furthermore, he won’t even tell me what exactly it is that I’m lacking. That I understand even less. It’s like I’m frowned upon for asking questions, frowned up for questioning his supreme authority. If someone brings you suggestions and comments in the most polite way possible, why not at least hear them out? I’ve tried to do this at my school and as soon as it’s realized that I’m “criticizing” I get shot down immediately. No one even hears me out.

I don’t worship my sifu nor anyone else. That’s ridiculous. I feel that everyone learns better if we treat each other as equals, not by putting one person much above the rest.

Finally, I ask if you must quote me, then to please include my entire statement, and not just parts of it. Thanks.

Illusory Neptune,

Here just some things to think about…(just fragments)

It is one thing to think you are ready to teach and another for your sifu to think you are ready. I’m sure he appreciates your enthusiasm but ask yourself, Do you really want to teach if your sifu does not think you are ready?

Evaluate yourself, Do your forms look like something that other beginner students want to model themseves after>?
Are you able to comprehend all or mostly all the techniques/fundamentals and apply them in sparring competently.

Do you hold the humbleness, integrity and temperment that a student of kung fu should posess.

There is definately a relationship that needs to be respected. Learning how to be a student is not something that just happens, it is something that is learned. Once you learn how to be a good student, then you go to the next level.

I have seen excellent kung fu artists that cant teach and I have seen mediocre students that could “teach” well.

Some people excel in certain areas such as a student of 6 months can do better forms than a student of 3 years, this does not make him suitable to teach.

I will give you no advice because I do not know your full situation, just some things to think about and look inside to question,
“Why does my sifu think I am not ready?” if you give yourself an honest answer and then work on those aspects, your sifu will notice.

After all, asking him what it is would be the easy path, but figuring it out on your own would be a wise path…

Good Luck,

AOF

Illusion Neptune-

Might I ask what style you train and who your instructor is? Perhaps if we knew the style that you train we’d have a better idea of where you’re at in your training after one year. Also, if we knew the instructor we might be able to tell you if you are involved in something fraudulent. It is very difficult for people on this forum to gauge where you and your instructor are coming from with so little information.

It would also help us to know your training regimine. Roughly how many hours to you dedicate solely to training, how many classes you’ve attended in the past year and your personal relationship with your SiFu.

I’ve known many students in my limited training that want too much information too fast. I’ve also known students who think that they know everything after only a few months training and think it is appropriate to start teaching new students…obviously not O.K. I’ll blame it on our American culture, we think that if we ask nicely and we have enough money we can “obtain” anything. Kung Fu is one of those “things” that can only be obtained by the students own hard work and dedication to understanding.

I hate to lecture. But again, it’s hard to get a grasp on the situation without all the details.

IllusoryNeptune.

The other Student that was allowed in afert 6,onth, did he have pevious MA training, did he train harder/more than you.
Those are also factors that need to be considered.

To be brutally honest if you are so upset about not getting your wish and about someone younger/junior being advanced before you, than I would suggest NEVER to enter the corporate World.

Also, please, don’t listen to the voices that say “you are paying money, it’s your time so don’t take crap from people you are paying”.
While it sounds nice, it won’t make you many friends nor get you what you desire. Unless you are rich enough to sue the school.
If MA gets reduced to that I don’t want any part of it.

Of course as a Consumer you are fully entitled to go and seek an alternative school that suits you better.

If you really desire to become an Instructor in that specific style, than you should be training every free minute and get on good terms with the powers that are at the School.

In the end it is your Instructors that decide if they consider you worth of becoming a Teacher not you or anybody else.

It looks to me as if you might alreay have closed that particular door forever within that school.
Most People are only given 1 chance.

Peace.

Originally posted by Merryprankster
[B]

My master is love itself. And his **** don’t stink. I have created a small shrine to him in the honor of all that is holy and good. :rolleyes: [/B]

Small shrine… pffft. You’ll never be Assistant Instructor with that lame offering.

IllusoryNeptune.

One thing I forgot.

Not everybody that enters an Instructors course will end up teaching.

Unless you are in a true traditional environment where you won’t be allowed to fail once you gone past a certain point.

But than your school doesn’t sound like that, to be honest it sounds very much like a commercial setup.

Peace.

What I look for in an instructor.

Image:

A finley combed mullet.

Long sideburns.

Must have the beer belly.

A spotty 5 o’clock shadow.

At least one gold tooth. A missing tooth would do also.

Must bath at least once a week.

Really bad leathery skin.

Must pronouce it Kaw-rotty.

Must have elvis a roll model.

Must have done at least 6 months in jail.

And, last but not least, he must have at one point shoved a firecracker into the rectum of a small rodent.

:smiley:

He won’t even give me a chance. I don’t understand that. Furthermore, he won’t even tell me what exactly it is that I’m lacking. That I understand even less. It’s like I’m frowned upon for asking questions, frowned up for questioning his supreme authority. If someone brings you suggestions and comments in the most polite way possible, why not at least hear them out? I’ve tried to do this at my school and as soon as it’s realized that I’m “criticizing” I get shot down immediately. No one even hears me out.

You know, if this is REALLY true, you have a legitimate complaint. There’re a lot of MA instructors out there that frown on question asking as if you are being insulting and disrespectful. I would take a step back and seriously think about whether or not you truly deserve to be in the program, and if, after awhile, you honestly still hold that opinion, then I would go forward and press the issue, politely. On the other hand, if they are the sort that regard questions ad disrespect, you might want to think about whether you want to be there at all.

i look for blond short hair

and nice boobs,good firm a$$ and a mouth that wont quit,female instructors are so great,the way they stretch and bend over,yeah,when the demonstrate by throwing you down and sitting on your face,sigh,.
thats pretty much what i look for in a potential instructor.

                    amny esprects , Teh illwow dwors.:p

IN-

There are always severa;l contributing factors to any decision made and any action taken. Even if only one factor is professed.

There are a few ways you can look at this and this is only my own personal opinion.

  1. Your teacher may be checking to see if your cup is empty.

  2. Your teacher may have a control issue and in his heart it is his desire to be your master as opposed to being your guide and master with “guide” first and “master” second.

  3. You may have an attitude problem or an error in perception of your own skill and ability in the realm of instruction.

Also, Try not to aspire to be seen as one of knowledge at your age. You are young and many of those opinions and views that you hold now you will change with time and on occasion reverse your stance entirely. So, bide your time until you truly do have a viewpoint to express with utter clarity. (with thanks to Plato, socrates and aristotle for that.)

Finally, first set out to know the system you are learning. Know it for and back, know the applications and be sure you know how to convey this knowledge properly. Just because “you can” doesn’t mean “you can transmit”.

Always examine yourself first before examining someone else. Your world is made up of your perceiving of it. It is not made up of someone elses views.

peace

thankyou kung lek

that was very insightful and wise. i was so moved by it i jizzed my pants.:stuck_out_tongue:

                                            Many respects,,The Willow Sword

TWS- even in jest you are a complete moron.

You try to hard bra, just too **** hard.

You’re getting a little spicy in old age, TWS. Did you start learning Iron Wire or something:D ?

Basically what I look for in a student wishing to become an instructor are as follows:
Good communication skills, well-groomed,well mannered, responsible,enthusiasm, and some skill in technique. Enthusiasm definately rates over technique. I can teach you technique, I can develop your skill, but I cannot teach you to be enthusiastic.(this is a hard one. It’s not your school, you don’t pay the bills, rent, insurance, etc, but you have to have the enthusiasm as if you did, because every student, every class counts)
Over the years, experience has added a little more to my list-No body odor, (Right Guard over funk don’t cut it) no bad breath (sure, you don’t mind-you get to stand behind it) they must have an amazing power of self-control-no hot tempers. No ego. Everyone can become a superstar. When you are gone, I will make more. It is what I do. Abso***lutely NO ****ing Bi-Polar assistant instructors! I have had it with guys freaking out on my floor! AAAGGGGHHH! (yep, you guessed it, I am Sifu. I alone am the ONLY one allowed to freak out-EVER!!!)

but that’s only cause you’re a ninja

I look for someone that is totally sweet and can flip out and cut heads off.

Well, I very much appreciate all of the suggestions and advice. But as someone said earlier, I think I may have inadvertently “closed the door” to that program permanently. Now that I’ve thought about it, I really don’t mind it that much. I don’t get along particularly well with my sifu now, so I can only imagine what it would be like if I had to work more closely with him. The thing is, that he is set in his ways and stubborn and I am a vehicle for change. So obviously, it wouldn’t work.

Anyway, like I said before. I like the people I train with and I have a good time at the practices, so at least I have that. Oh, and if anyone wants more information on my school, please look at www.white-lotus.com By the way, I’ve met the headmaster on several occasions. He seems authentic and probably is and he’s not full of himself at all. He’s an okay guy but a little too old-fashioned for me. Saying this, because I know the info on him on the website can be perceived by others as exaggeration.