Is there type of additional training that can compliment my Kung Fu training ? Like buiding my endurance, cardio, Pushups, running ?
I know that ive heard some of the masters of the past not only trained long hours on their forms, meditation, applications etc but in the early morning hours you’d see em running and or doing pushups and pullups?
Will thi help me advance?
if your kungfu training doesn’t put any emphasis on conditioning and cardio endurance then I would hazard to say that you are not practicing a complete system of kungfu.
run, walk, work with weights, swim, train balance, build strength etc etc.
Typically it should all be in there. Basic health practices are basic health practices. You don’t have to run marathons, but it’s pretty imperative that your heart and breath are strong or the rest of you will mightily fail.
Going out for drinks after class with your mates. That should be mandatory.
So what do you think about running, pushup and bar work along with my daily training? I currently am taking an internal art
If your martial art doesn’t have drilling of basic punches and kicks, and work you out, then you should probably dump it.
If I hear from another Chinese masterbator, “oh, we don’t stretch. oh, we don’t punch and kick that’s not ‘internal’. oh we don’t do sparring because this is an ‘internal martial art’ and we don’t want to hurt each other.” I think I’m gonna puke my guts out.
i don’t know if the 12 oz curl technically is considered working out (but its a lot more fun than running).
the exercises that i like the most are the simple ones, push, ups situps, pull ups, and dumbells for triceps and shoulders. for cardio i like the eliptical machines bc its easier on the knees and shins and i can do about 4-5 miles in 30 minutes on it. i mix in plyometrics and isometrics when i get bored with the normal stuff. but i dunno what would be good supplemental for internal style. i would make sure you ae getting healthy cardio and stuff but other than that i don’t know.
I believe it was already said before though that your school should be able to offer you all the actual exercise you will need for the techniques you will be implementing. you can just do more of those on your own or try to find ways to make those drills and exercises more difficult. not sure if any of that helps. good luck and happy training.
~steve
IMHO good CMA includes stretching, drilling basic punching and striking, stance work, partner exercises and sparring. Weapons and forms are IMHO ancillary practices that may or may not be included, depends upon your teacher.
Or in other words: stretching, burning muscles, sweating, swearing and laughing.
After going to too many so-called CMA places that don’t teach much fighting, IMHO if there is no stretching, burning muscles, sweating, swearing and laughing, then it doesn’t have the pre-requisities to be a good CMA place.
If there is no stretching, then be prepared for a lot of pulled muscles and injuries. If there are no burning muscles, then you’re not getting stronger. If there is no sweating then you’re not working out hard enough. If there is no swearing then you’re not getting hit hard enough, and if there is no laughing, then they take themselves way too seriously.
This is not an opinion, this is a mandatory. plus much more.
I guess my point is, if you get outside after your training session, and you’re thinking about supplementary exercises, then find a new kwoon.
Edit … I mean, there may be some places where the guy may be good at sparring, or something, but isn’t drilling you on basic stuff. But I don’t think that type of place should be your only training place.
I was just gonna let this one fly by but I didn’t see any responses I really liked that I thought would help the guy, so here goes.
Well if you REALLY wanna be able to use the stuff, the first thing you’ve gotta do is gauge where you’re training at:
Does the instructor spend most of his time teaching or refining?
Do the other students spend their time learning or refining?
Is there a lot of sparring or at least push hands?
You mentioned you trained internal; so if I think of the generalized, stereotypical internal school some of those questions are going to lean a certain way.
Does the instructor teach application? If not, then you’re going to have a REAL hard time making what he’s teaching at all fight-ready.
If, for example, they focus mainly on breathing exercises, stances, form, and the occasional application -but not a lot of sparring- then you’re probably going to need some outside help on conditioning.
If your art’s mainly manipulation of an opponent, then I would focus on:
a. finding a wrestling buddy to train with who won’t mind letting you try stuff out on him
b. finding a guy who punches and/or kicks a lot who won’t mind letting you try stuff out on him while he tries stuff on you
c. a decent, 2x a week, weight lifting conditioning program with full-body lifts so you can learn how to coordinate your whole body. In other words: NO FREAKIN BICEP CURLS.
d. a good sprint workout like Tabata intervals via running, swimming, an elliptical, a rower, or whatever you like.
e. possibly a decent aerobic conditioning exercise (choose from above, 30 to 45 minutes at least twice a week) to help with aerobic capacity.
If your art’s mainly punching/kicking an opponent, then I would focus on:
a. find another guy who punches/kicks who won’t mind working with you while you each try stuff out.
b. get a heavy bag and start going for rounds. 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest are a good start. Work on form and staying busy. Take the occasional round to just work on nailing the thing as hard as you can repeatedly.
c. a decent, 2x a week, weightlifting program: still full body lifts, but the main focus should be on explosive movements, like hi-rep hi-pull & press (i say this coz w/ hi reps the weight should be such that you shouldn’t have any trouble with it).
BTW:
hi-pull = holding a barbel around thigh level and doing a clean up to your chest.
press of course means exploding with it up above your head.
Let down slowly & repeat
d. a good sprint workout, 2x a week as listed above.
e. a good cardio workout, 2+x a week as listed above.
If your class IS geared around some sparring, then just give it time.
If not, then class is for learning, refining is on your own time. Follow one of the above programs and don’t bring it up around your teacher- he’ll think you’re telling him his training is incomplete and he’ll consider the outside work a distraction from what he’s trying to teach you.
a good shaoxing wine-which is really an oxymoron.
Ng Ga Pei is very good, but very volitile
Confucious Family Liquor is good,especially when drank with Asian pears.
weight training, weight training and weight training.
If it truely is an internal martial art then the focus should be on two man partner work like in push hands.
That the only way that you can truely develop internal skills. But IMO internal is just a skill set, its learning to use sensitivity to listen to your opponents body movement while concealing your own movement . Its also about going where your opponent is not. That means not opposing your opponents strength.
For example, he goes forward, then you go up, down or back. You don’t try to go forward against it. But in order to do this you have to know where he is going to go and so you have to develop balance, relaxation without limpness, sensitivity and conceal your own “intent.”
Nothing mystical but it takes a lot of partner work to develop this skill. But you don’t have to be “strong” ie buff and you don’t even have to have that good of cardio to have developed this skillset.
However, I wouldn’t put my money on this type of fighter to go 10 rounds.
One more thing to add:
Most internal arts are “principle based arts”, in other words they’ll teach you general principles and it’ll be up to you to derive how to express them.
If you follow what I said you’ll have to translate the “principle based art” into a “technique based art”, where you focus on executing & refining particular techniques. Might be a good idea to take at least one technique per principle to work on; or to just use the techniques as you learn them in the forms.
i can hold a large woman down for several hours.
this is good exercise.
Yoga. (This is really silly to have to type at least 10 letters when my answer only needs 4. I really dislike unnecessary jibberjabber.)