looking to start an argument GET LOST!
You can’t stand competition Victor?..
Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun
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Go Jun Long:
You heard no such thing…
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He did. Your refusal need not be point-blank; you cannot act for others.
Rhat is Go Jun Long.
Is Edumd = Almond?
Originally posted by Go Jun Long
[B]Ah, ok thank you. I have heard some of that also.
Yeah, I did not say that one is necessarily better or worse, I am just floating around what I heard and was wanting some of the others on here to voice there thoughts on it. Mainly what I have heard is that in China they dont say it is in-effective but just that it is not Wing Chun. Thats all I heard. Thanks again hunt1. [/B]
I’ll probably be called a troll for posting this. But as the saying goes - don’t shoot the messenger!
The following is from a recent conversation with a wing chun player in China. This reply was not to my comments but part of the same thread.
"… I used to follow the same idea as you that all wing chun is the same, and it all did, for the most part come from the same root. But I have had the fortuneate oppotunity to witness first hand many different styles, such as YKS/SN wing chun ( what i play ) Pin San/Gulou wing chun, Pang Lam wing chun, Fatsan wing chun, Hong Kong wing chun, to name a few, and some of them have huge differences, hong kong wing chun is definatly a bread of its on ( not saying thats a bad thing ) but from mainland wing chun there are huge differences, and lots of standard training stuff missing that are still around on the mainland, … and this is just a couple of examples, wing chun is wing chun, we all fly under the same banner but there are differences that are almost equal to differences in two completely different styles of kung fu, between some. … "
-David
I heard in mainland China that Yip Man Wing Chun is not considered Wing Chun at all, that it is a baby art compared to the true Wing Chun. Anyone care to comment on this statement and spread your thoughts?
Yes. I think this comment is utter rubbish and anyone who trolls with it on an internet forum is a total moron.
Is that clear enough?
a wing chun player in China
unnamed, and his wisdom and experience unspecified, but obviously subject to the same parochialism as the rest of us.
How much has this guy really seen of any of the styles he mentioned, especially YMWC, in which there is huge stylistic variation, and why does his opinion carry more weight than anyone else’s?
he’s a real “twisted” sister, lol…
cool, I have a fan club :rolleyes:
Originally posted by anerlich
How much has this guy really seen of any of the styles he mentioned, especially YMWC, in which there is huge stylistic variation, and why does his opinion carry more weight than anyone else’s?
Anerlich, since you were refering to my post allow me to say his opinion is from his experience and it carries as much weight as yours. However, as he lives in China and you live in Australia it is probable that he has more first hand experience with WCK from mainland China. I don’t know how much knowledge of Yip Man family WCK he’s been exposed to.
Originally posted by Go Jun Long
Its a simple question fueled by what I have heard in China. I am just trying to hear what others might have heard or have experience with. I believe that is what these forums are for, I guess if that is trolling I appologize, but if anyone cares to post there thoughts I would be interested still. Thanks
My post was in response to the above. If responses such as yours are par for the course how do expect to ever learn what WCK from mainland China is like? I mean isn’t the point of wing chun forums to learn more about wing chun??
-David
If responses such as yours are par for the course how do expect to ever learn what WCK from mainland China is like?
If most of what is put on here about mainland WC is hearsay from unnamed sources which put down other branches to lift themselves up, I guess the answer is: “You can’t”.
[SIZE=1]Looks like troll, smells like troll…let’s see how it tastes. [/SIZE]
Why don’t they consider it Wing Chun?
It has the same forms.
The concepts (theory, philosophy) are (for the most part) the same.
What is it that defines it as Wing Chun?
Originally posted by anerlich
If most of what is put on here about mainland WC is hearsay from unnamed sources which put down other branches to lift themselves up, I guess the answer is: “You can’t”.
I don’t believe it was his intention to “put down other branches to lift themselves up”. The main discussion was focussed on bridge training meathods. He was trying to explain why the intended party might be having difficulty understanding his point. Basically how the system he trains…
“YKS/SN wing chun ( what i play )”,
has many bridge training meathods that are not commonly found in what he termed …
“hong kong wing chun”.
-David