Anyone have a link for the fight vid? I heard Sonnen absolutely dominated till late in the 5th round and got submitted by triangle.
fron what ive heard he was just letting sonnen hit him and not even putting up much of a defense from the first round hands down just taking it then the sub came out of no where so maybe silva was riding him out to prove a point?
In silva post fight interview he said he was fighting with broke ribs. That would have been a crucial factor in his performance. That he received in his training up to the fight.
I saw the fight. The theme was American bs Brazillian in every fight. I wonder if they did that on purpose or that’s just how the cards fell.
Sonnen was doing the wet rag attack the whole fight that GSP and others are famous for doing. Silva was even getting dominated during their minimal stand up sessions before Sonnen took him down and bashed his face in for 5 rounds. Almost at the end of the 5th Andersoj pulls out the submission. Then came the, “He didn’t tap”. Then they went to the video and showed that he did tap unless he was trying futily to slap Silva’s thigh to try to get out.
Silva looked like crap at the end of the match with his teammates holding him up. I don’t think Silva purposely put himself through all that to prove a point. More than likely he couldn’t stop the take downs.
haha I heard Steven segal was in Andersons corner? True?
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1030887]haha I heard Steven segal was in Andersons corner? True?[/QUOTE]
Steven Seagal was giving him tips on how to start his movie career. UFC 117 should have been called “Hard To Kill Anderson Silva” cause he just wouldn’t stop. I have no idea if Seagal was there.
Seagal was in the crowd and offered Silva good luck before he entered the cage.
Good fight! Did not hear any **** talking fro Chael after!
JAB
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;1030892]Seagal was in the crowd and offered Silva good luck before he entered the cage.
Good fight! Did not hear any **** talking fro Chael after!
JAB[/QUOTE]
Before the fight he promised to have Silva on his back more than a prostitute with a mortgage. That was classic! But he lost in the end so he couldn’t really **** talk anymore.
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;1030892]Seagal was in the crowd and offered Silva good luck before he entered the cage.
Good fight! Did not hear any **** talking fro Chael after!
JAB[/QUOTE]
I watched the ESPN real time, MMA Live announcer was giving complete domination, even a 10-8 round to Sonnen…so he backed up his trash talk. When Anderson secured the arm bar, he said it was all Seagal (heavy sarcasm)…hilarious.
Here is a link to most of the fight vids:
http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/
Wow, what a great fight!!! Much respect for both men…Sonnen let it get away and the champ came back from nowhere!
thanks for posting the vid. appreciate it. 
sonnen dominated the whole fight. Great wrestling. Looks like he’s been studying the GSP handbook.
curious the amount of trash talking and discrediting that will take place of the tap out.
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sonnen dominated the whole fight. Great wrestling. Looks like he’s been studying the GSP handbook. :)[/QUOTE]
Sonnen was a Div 1 AA and Olympic alternate. Not to mention this is how he’s beat all his best competition. GSP’s wrestling isn’t in the same category as Sonnen. Not to knock GSP. But it took a lot more than just the ability to get a double to keep Silva on his back that whole fight. I don’t know if GSP has that level of total control, he could take Silva down but I don’t think he’d keep him there like happened with Sonnen. I agree though, Silva got dominated. He might have got the W in the end. But he got his ass beat for 23 minutes. The thing that sucks for Sonnen though is that armbar wasn’t really set, I think if he wouldn’t have tapped he’d probably have slipped out of it. Silva was just controlling the wrist 1 on 1, Sonnen probably could have rotated the arm a bit to relieve some pressure and gone from there. That said, he needs to work on his sub defense before a rematch. Silva was setting that particular triangle up for a bout 15 seconds or so (and really trying to isolate an arm the whole fight), Sonnen should have recognized it.
[QUOTE=SoCo KungFu;1030971]Sonnen was a Div 1 AA and Olympic alternate. Not to mention this is how he’s beat all his best competition. GSP’s wrestling isn’t in the same category as Sonnen. Not to knock GSP. But it took a lot more than just the ability to get a double to keep Silva on his back that whole fight. I don’t know if GSP has that level of total control, he could take Silva down but I don’t think he’d keep him there like happened with Sonnen. I agree though, Silva got dominated. He might have got the W in the end. But he got his ass beat for 23 minutes. The thing that sucks for Sonnen though is that armbar wasn’t really set, I think if he wouldn’t have tapped he’d probably have slipped out of it. Silva was just controlling the wrist 1 on 1, Sonnen probably could have rotated the arm a bit to relieve some pressure and gone from there. That said, he needs to work on his sub defense before a rematch. Silva was setting that particular triangle up for a bout 15 seconds or so (and really trying to isolate an arm the whole fight), Sonnen should have recognized it.[/QUOTE]
GSP has stated interest in fighting Anderson Silva but after this match Silva would probably be hesitant to battle another good wrestler. I believe that Koscheck was a division 1 wrestler and GSP dominated him wrestling wise.
What I’m wondering is if a fast rematch can be justified since Silva clearly won in the end. Dominated or not Sonnen tapped.
So, Sonned threw everything he had at Silva, and the kitchen sink, and it didn’t beat him and then the first opportunity Silva had, he took Sonnen out.
Sounds like the qualities that make someone a champion.
Perhaps Sonnen should have trained a bit more and **** talked a bit less.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1031028]So, Sonned threw everything he had at Silva, and the kitchen sink, and it didn’t beat him and then the first opportunity Silva had, he took Sonnen out.
Sounds like the qualities that make someone a champion.[/QUOTE]
This really reminded me of the 1st Ali - Frazier fight. Ali went from some mythic figure who the traditional boxing folks hated for all his show boating and trash talking to simply being a great fighter and champion, who won the respect of the boxing world in spite of the loss.
Maybe the same will happen with Silva now.
[QUOTE=m1k3;1031057]This really reminded me of the 1st Ali - Frazier fight. Ali went from some mythic figure who the traditional boxing folks hated for all his show boating and trash talking to simply being a great fighter and champion, who won the respect of the boxing world in spite of the loss.
Maybe the same will happen with Silva now.[/QUOTE]
Well, I don’t follow MMA that much, but was Silva NOT Respected before this?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1031063]Well, I don’t follow MMA that much, but was Silva NOT Respected before this?[/QUOTE]
For his skill, yes. But, he did a lot of fights with a fair amount of show boating and mocking his opponents in the ring by clowning around, dropping his hands or sticking out his chin and dancing around and more stuff like that. It really annoyed Dana White and a lot of the fans.
This just might be his wake up call.
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;1031047]Perhaps Sonnen should have trained a bit more and **** talked a bit less.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that Sonnen was dominating right up until the end of the final round. It looked like Silva hadn’t been training compared to Sonnen. Sonnen made good on all his promises and if he had avoided the submission he would have won. I was waiting for him to submit Silva at some point.
Couldn’t it be said that Silva won by luck? I know he was trying to set this submission up but he was getting pummeled in the process.
it was very close for sonnen escaping the sub. he was in the right position sitting back and looked to be getting his head back. I think if he would have stuck it out for a couple more seconds Silva would have let go. so close.
I will say that for all the sh**it Sonnen talked coming into this fight, he brought his A game and backed it up and took the fight to Silva like no one I have ever seen before. Hopefully the rematch will live up to this fight.
As for Silva, I agree that it is the mark of a great champion to come back after four rounds of being dismantled, which is what Sonnen did. Maybe the aura of invincibility has been lifted from Silva, which may be a good thing even for him. I hope Silva quits some of the stupid theatrics he has done in the past and maybe this will serve as a good wake up call.