this is the mentality that i make personal… this is the mentality that i actively draw out, to p!ss off those wanna-be tough guy male chauvinistic nutwads that pass themselves off as the average all-american idiot. this is exactly the type of mentality that is a cancer in our society - people like this shouldn’t be in positions of “public servitude”… the police tend to forget themselves: they are public servants - to serve and protect. i hope any police officers on the forums watch this… i hope it strikes a raw nerve. no wonder people do not respect the police, the police do not respect those they have sworn to “serve and protect” you talk to my kids like you’re their ****ing father and i’ll knock yer ****ing heads off… people need to start standing up for their rights.
That’s the nature of a pig. That’s the nature of a uniform.
Extreme example of it yes.. but it’s the basic nature that is selected for and encouraged by those systems.. being it a beat cop, a longtime deputy, or a chief petty officer/sergeant.
The solution.. arm the citizens AND videotape EVERY interaction with law enforcement.
Then it’s harder for the “thin blue line” to come into play and public outrage can have an effect.. like it did this time.
I could be wrong, but I feel that anyone that wants to be a policeman would end up being a security guard of some sort if they could not be a policeman. They do not like to work, will not work, want to play around all day driving around and acting big time. It is a complex. The difference between the police and the criminal is a very thin line. And sometimes these lines do cross. The uniform makes people feel superior and it makes them do things one would not normally do. Like the Nazi SS uniform for instance. I do not trust anyone that wants to wear a badge. There may be those that do indeed wish to protect and serve, but they would always be the exception I think. None of them like to work, that is why they want the drive around all day job.
Well, it’s clear that the cop in the vid is a disgrace and should not even be wearing a uniform. However, it’s equally clear that none of you who have responded has any clue what a law enforcement officer’s job is, or what it is like. Aside from the small (but all too loud and visible) minority of idiots, hot-heads and morons who somehow end up in positions of authority, most cops are actually decent people doing a ridiculously sucky job…
[QUOTE=cerebus;997160]However, it’s equally clear that none of you who have responded has any clue what a law enforcement officer’s job is, or what it is like. .[/QUOTE]
I swear to god if that was my kid, that cop would be in a body bag. He had no right to touch the kid, regardless of what the kid said. He doesn’t have to address the cop in any way, nor did he even have to answer any questions. Freedom of speech and the right to remain silent.
That cop has some nerve. I hope the parents and the department saw this and the parents sued both the individual officer for battery as well as the department.
you guys rock… cerebus, i realize where you’re coming from… i too realize that not all police officers are dirtbags, but come on mang - the cops have a superiority complex. people are not gonna put up with actions like this for much longer.
I certainly would not grieve if i was to hear that this cop was killed in the line of duty (or anywhere else for that matter). I guarantee if there were no cameras present he would have manhandled/injured that kid. big fat ***** would have been slapped and robbed of his lunch money all through school and now he’s getting a little back.
Well, it’s clear that the cop in the vid is a disgrace and should not even be wearing a uniform. However, it’s equally clear that none of you who have responded has any clue what a law enforcement officer’s job is, or what it is like. Aside from the small (but all too loud and visible) minority of idiots, hot-heads and morons who somehow end up in positions of authority, most cops are actually decent people doing a ridiculously sucky job…
my thoughts as well.
You always have the extreme in anything, be it race/law/MA/etc. Your going to have it.
Being a cop is not an easy job. You have to deal with the scum of society, who would rather spit in your face than give you a word. The pay isn’t that great, and you put your life out there every day.
Anyways maybe the kid will learn something from this exchange.
[QUOTE=cerebus;997160]Well, it’s clear that the cop in the vid is a disgrace and should not even be wearing a uniform. However, it’s equally clear that none of you who have responded has any clue what a law enforcement officer’s job is, or what it is like. Aside from the small (but all too loud and visible) minority of idiots, hot-heads and morons who somehow end up in positions of authority, most cops are actually decent people doing a ridiculously sucky job…[/QUOTE]
I agree.
In any body or organization there will invariably be some form of corruption. It is an attribute of humanity in and of itself for all of written history at least! lol
It is too bad about these individuals who stray from their oaths or take them under false pretenses, but to paint all within the official body as evil is erroneous.
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Anyways maybe the kid will learn something from this exchange.[/QUOTE]like to crack an officer in the mouth with the skateboard trucks the next time an officer behaves in this manner.
like to crack an officer in the mouth with the skateboard trucks the next time an officer behaves in this manner.
Uki, I’m not saying what robocop did was right. I’m saying that the kid might learn something about people in general, (like when to speak and when not to). Hopefully he doesn’t do as you stated, he’ll just end up in further trouble in the future. And once a kid at that age ends up in the ‘system’ its a long crawl out. I did juvenile correction for years and you saw that about 80% of the kids who got into trouble stayed in trouble and ended up following right along and going to jail at 18.
my dad once told me a story about police. i will try to paraphrase here..
when i was 16, me and a bunch of my buddies would sometimes go to the park and have a few beers and smoke cigarrettes. the cops, when they woukld patrol by, they didnt bother us. they would say “dont get into trouble, ok boys?” and we didnt cause trouble. we didnt bother anybody, and the cops didnt bother us.
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well, this is just my own dad’s experience with cops back many many years ago when he was a teenager(he is over 60 y.o. now.) but, this plays on what i think police really should be doing - keeping the peace or helping citizens more than the type of things they do today.
my dad likes to point out how mindless cops can be. like they are robots. as he says, back in his days, they didnt hand out fines for small things or arrest kids for having a smoke. just as long as you didnt act like an @ss and didnt cause trouble.
and, i would like to point out that my dad was in the military and has police training.
anyways, from my own experiences, i feel that people who are working to become police officers need many more psychological examinations than it seems they are getting. anyone who gets into positions of power needs very careful screening IMO.
[QUOTE=KTS;997281]my dad once told me a story about police. i will try to paraphrase here..
when i was 16, me and a bunch of my buddies would sometimes go to the park and have a few beers and smoke cigarrettes. the cops, when they woukld patrol by, they didnt bother us. they would say “dont get into trouble, ok boys?” and we didnt cause trouble. we didnt bother anybody, and the cops didnt bother us.
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well, this is just my own dad’s experience with cops back many many years ago when he was a teenager(he is over 60 y.o. now.) but, this plays on what i think police really should be doing - keeping the peace or helping citizens more than the type of things they do today.
my dad likes to point out how mindless cops can be. like they are robots. as he says, back in his days, they didnt hand out fines for small things or arrest kids for having a smoke. just as long as you didnt act like an @ss and didnt cause trouble.
and, i would like to point out that my dad was in the military and has police training.
anyways, from my own experiences, i feel that people who are working to become police officers need many more psychological examinations than it seems they are getting. anyone who gets into positions of power needs very careful screening IMO.[/QUOTE]most excellent post - i hope any knuckleheads on the boards, who wear uniforms, read this and let it sink in.