truth on Raul Ortiz

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To Magnus…

I am dissappointed that someone who would stick up for the heart and soul of the handicapped people, would use the word “gay” to describe things as stupid. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with intelligence.

As for the rest of you I will repeat what I have said in the past.

Word is full of ****.
You know word is full of ****.
I know word is full of ****.
Even word knows he is full of ****.

Why not just leave it at that? Getting all upset only fuels his motivation.
You guys just be glad I am not a moderator :slight_smile:

As far as 86 forms being ridiculous…
Tai Chi Mantis has at least 100.
That is the empty hand sets.
The two man empty hand sets.
The single weapons sets.
The double weapons sets.
The two man weapons sets.
The three man weapons sets.

Then there is the Tai Chi side of it…

Northern mantis is a big system.

May peace be your guide and serenity light your path.

Namaste.

oh yeah, one other thing…

Word is proud his post got four stars…

Any idiot can rate these things if I remember correctly.

Thank You Word/Raul

Thanks for the poll Word, all I can say is that if i am ever in the states I will look up Sifu Raul and you to see how you both train and what you both could teach me. Perhaps you will let us know where we can train with you so I can judge for myself the merits of your techniques. You guys obviously dont get on for whatever reason, but for those who are interested in training why not tell us where you train or which sifu you learned under so we can see and learn.

Good luck to you.

Chi Luen Sect Members

Please do not react to comments about associated members of our sect. YOU must learn not to let others negativily effect your judgement and actions. We are not puppets on a string.

Nathan Chukueke

UK Kung Fu

al

Where do you train? I just got back from England and was wondering where I might find some Mantis schools in case I have to go back.

UK Kung Fu

Leicester (7 star mantis) is my school in the UK, if you log on to the ITSWA web site you will find a list of the 7 star schools and details on the ITSWA instructors around the UK. I am afraid I cant help if your an 8 Step or Tai Mantis practitioner, as I havent come across any UK schools as yet.

Hope this helps.

al

Hi al I’m a Choy Lee Fut practitioner but I have two close friends who are 7 Star mantis instructors up here in the North East, Sifu Paul Tenet and Sifu Dave Graham. I have met Sifu Fearson a couple of times and I have had the honour of meeting Master Lee Kam when I once came down to Leicester .

Saying is not boasting at all. These views and words are mine, and do not represent my Sifu or school.

al

I practice Wah Lum but I like to visit other schools in the area when I travel.

alecM

I just got back (to the U.S.) from Lancaster and I didn’t see any Kung Fu around there. I’m not sure yet if I’ll be going back but I’d like to know what’s in the area just in case. Preferable Mantis but Choy Lay Fut is interesting as well.

Hua Lin Laoshi and AlecM

Thanks for the feedback guys its good to know there are other UK kung fu practitioners out there, TKD and karate seem to be flavour of the year in the UK at the moment. Alec there is a summer school scheduled in Barnsley in July with Sifu Lee Kam Wing teaching, as well as Wing Chun, Lion Dance, Tai Chi and Chi Kung. You would be very welcome if you wish to attend, I hope to make at least a day of the training (Kwan dao v Kwan dao form and double tiger hooks could be a possibility for more experienced mantis practitioners, as well as basics). Hua, there used to be Wah Lum Mantis but it seems to have gone quiet over here over the last few years (would appreciate any information on existing clubs from any other guys who are looking at this forum). If you ever return to the UK and are around the area you would be welcome. I dont know of any clubs around the Lancaster area (sorry not being much help there) but I will keep my ears/eyes open for you.

All the best

Sifu Dave Hawkins used to have a Wah Lum school in Hinckley I believe. He left Wah Lum awhile back and is currently training/teaching Choy Lay Fut. I haven’t seen him in years.

Wah Lum/Choy Lee Fut

Yes Hua, Sifu Dave Hawkins is still around the Leicester area and he does indeed teach Choy Lee Fut now, I have never trained with him but he was involved in the Chinese New Year celebrations for the year of the dragon some time back, and said hello to some of his students who were involved in the lion dance. They seemed quite a friendly bunch and the celebrations seemed to go well. I dont know why he stopped teaching Wah Lum and started with Choy Lee Fut, but he is certainly still teaching at the moment.

Best Regards

Al

al

Sorry I won’t be able to a tend the seminar with master Lee Kam due to personal reasons. As for Dave Hawkins he is indeed teaching Choy Lee Fut he is currently a student of my Sifu Edmund Ng.

Saying is not boasting at all. These views and words are mine, and do not represent my Sifu or school.