Traditional training equipment

[QUOTE=bawang;1232106]the shanpuying never beat the mongols at the nadaam.[/QUOTE]

Do you have any historical record for this?

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1232107]Do you have any historical record for this?[/QUOTE]

I don’t have any historical records. I don’t care about Manchu wrestling and what manchus do.

does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?

[QUOTE=bawang;1232108]
does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?[/QUOTE]

Dancing exercise with weights is much better than just a dancing exercise. It is probably better than just weights as well.

[QUOTE=bawang;1232100]
you often see stone locks being tossed around and juggled. when I learned stone locks, all I did was bicep curls and shoulder press with them.[/QUOTE]

I trained jab and cross with stone locks…same as with dumbbells…

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1232111]Dancing exercise with weights is much better than just a dancing exercise. It is probably better than just weights as well.[/QUOTE]

in kung fu its vital that you lift weights with the right spirit. you must have an angry face and lift with rage. its not appropriate to dance with weights.

[QUOTE=bawang;1232108]does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?[/QUOTE]

When did I post “funny little dancing exercises” in this thread? Are you talking about this? It’s called “(Chuan Shi Dan) - swing double heads” which is not “(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

Here is an artical about how ancient Chinese got strong. It’s in Chinese.

The small grindstone can be used to train the “hand” strength. The large grindstone can be used to train the “core” strength.

The ancient Chinese “core” strength training is different from just “lift”.

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_474601080100mrpu.html

[QUOTE=bawang;1232114]in kung fu its vital that you lift weights with the right spirit. you must have an angry face and lift with rage. its not appropriate to dance with weights.[/QUOTE]

Can you do an angry dance, like moshing?

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1232117]Can you do an angry dance, like moshing?[/QUOTE]

its not a joke. I quoted a Chinese general. no matter how light your weight is, even if its 5 pounds, you must lift it like its 1000 pounds. and you must lift with the spirit of attacking someone.

[QUOTE=bawang;1232120]its not a joke. I quoted a Chinese general. no matter how light your weight is, even if its 5 pounds, you must lift it like its 1000 pounds. and you must lift with the spirit of attacking someone.[/QUOTE]

Aren’t forms also meant to be trained in this fashion?

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1232122]Aren’t forms also meant to be trained in this fashion?[/QUOTE]

Not all moves in the form are 100% committed attack. If it’s just for “set up”, 30% power should be enough.

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1232122]Aren’t forms also meant to be trained in this fashion?[/QUOTE]

showing anger in modern society is taboo. at work, at school, with friends and family. but burying emotion erases your humanity. if you cannot fully express yourself, you are less than human.

how can you practice the art of war and violence without anger?

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1232116]When did I post “funny little dancing exercises” in this thread? Are you talking about this? It’s called “(Chuan Shi Dan) - swing double heads” which is not “(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads”.
[/QUOTE]

so why you didn’t post “(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads”?

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1232116]

The ancient Chinese “core” strength training is different from just “lift”.

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[QUOTE=bawang;1232127]so why you didn’t post “(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads”?[/QUOTE]

Here is one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThkK4cPzuo&feature=youtu.be

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1232149]Here is one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThkK4cPzuo&feature=youtu.be[/QUOTE]

when most kung fu people cant even lift up their arms, I think its important to show the simple “lift”.

It is important to realize that “movement specific” strength building is a part for strength training BUT should only be done AFTER general strength is well developed.
EX:
If you can’t overhead press 100lbs, you have no business doing any “twirling around” over your head of 25lbs.

Develop a solid core and base and then you can “improvise” with stuff because by then your stabilizers as well as your “major movers” are developed enough (hopefully).

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1232149]Here is one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThkK4cPzuo&feature=youtu.be[/QUOTE]

I didn’t realize Crossfit was that old…

#burn

Clean to press, super effective move. Love it.

:frowning:

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1231645]I won’t go into any detail but the following are ancient CMA training equipment:

  • leather belt for cracking.
  • brick for finger strength.
  • stone lock for swinging.
  • square bag for throwing.
  • long bag for arm strength.
  • single head for leg.
  • double heads for arm and body.
  • weight puller for pulling.
  • bowling ball for foot scoop.
  • long cane bundle for techniques.
  • short cane bundle for grabbing.
  • short wooden stick for grabbing.
  • long woodern stick for grabbing.
  • weight on the loop for vibration.
  • weight on the end of rope for wrist strength.
  • big brick for body function.
  • Gon for twisting.
  • water jar for finger strength.
  • tree (or pole) for hanging, shin bitting, sticky, …

First you have to decide what skill that you want to enhance. You then pick up the right equipments for that skill. You have to map it backward.

For example, the skill “(Kou) - Knee seize” requires 4 different kind of forces. Which will need 4 different equipments to develop from.

  1. grip strength - throwing bag,
  2. linear shaking - weight pulley.
  3. forward pushing - long cane bundle,
  4. backward pulling - single head.

Here are some pictures:

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/4540/druml.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/5976/stonelock.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img198/6042/jibengong2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img197/5606/weightpulley2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img685/5167/singleheadbow.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img717/659/twistshortstick.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/8484/weightpulley3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/5728/weightpulley1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img508/7338/singleheadlegtwist.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img687/1138/earthweight.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img840/8890/singleheadsweep.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img718/1716/singleheadleglift.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img221/1374/singleheadknifehookv.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img577/7338/singleheadlegtwist.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img821/1671/doubleheads.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8387/weightpulley.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/3987/polehang2.png
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7958/canebundle.jpg[/QUOTE]

Pictures are not present. I am new user and would be happy to see them.

[QUOTE=Raipizo;1231606]Anyone out there know of any ye olde kung fu training equipment. Okinawan karate has it’s own things so I’m sure kung fu has some apparatuses also right? I tried looking on the Internet with little luck. Just looking to add a little spice into my training regime is all.[/QUOTE]I know this guy who juggles three 9lb iron balls. :smiley: