Today I went to the Public Security Bureau of Beijing to inquire about the latest information concerning Chinese visa.
Currently, foreign students, tourists and employees staying in China can renew their visa up till the 1st July. The Public Security Bureau will issue new visa regulations prior to that date.
Tourist (L), Study (X) and Work Visa (Z) can be renewed after 1st July. Only holders of Business Visa (F) will need to leave the country and re-apply.
For future visitors: Since 7th April 2008, regulations concerning tourist visa application have become more strict. Tourist visa is now issued for 30 days (prolonged stay is possible when proof of neccesity is provided).
Tourists travelling to China this summer, please submit the following documents with your application:
Passport: Your valid passport must have at least six (6) months of remaining validity with at least one blank visa page in it.
Application form: One completed Visa Application Form (Q1)
Photo: one passport photo (black & white or color is acceptable) glued or stapled on the application form.
An applicant who was born in China is required to submit his /her Chinese passport or last foreign passport with a Chinese visa when he/she applies for a Chinese visa with a new foreign passport.
Tourists to China shall provide round trip air tickets and hotel reservation to the Chinese embassy/consulate (MANDATORY)
In short:
Foreigners who are now staying in China can renew their visa, except for those who are holding Business Visa (F).
Tourists who are planning to visit China this summer are still allowed into the country. When applying for visa, they need to hand-in a copy of their round trip ticket and confirmed hotel reservation.
Wow the Chinese government is so great! They also don’t hide anything from the media or help the Omar Al Bashir regime in the Sudan. And they never committed attrocities like the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution.
I know what you mean bodhi and i’m no admirer of Chinese gov’t but i don’t
think America (my country which i love) is really in a position to throw stones.
Especially when we have blood on our hands too. It’d be easy for the Chinese
to lob stones back at us for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Guantanamo and any other
percieved human rights violations and atrocity. We all have some pretty
sorted histories my friend.
Not blasting you at all, please don’t rip my head off, i just think everybody’s
s h i t stinks. Everyone just prefers their own brand.
[QUOTE=jow yeroc;855264]I know what you mean bodhi and i’m no admirer of Chinese gov’t but i don’t
think America (my country which i love) is really in a position to throw stones.
Especially when we have blood on our hands too. It’d be easy for the Chinese
to lob stones back at us for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Guantanamo and any other
percieved human rights violations and atrocity. We all have some pretty
sorted histories my friend.
Not blasting you at all, please don’t rip my head off, i just think everybody’s
s h i t stinks. Everyone just prefers their own brand.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are right, we’ve done some pretty bad things, BUT you can express them and I can read them on a computer here in the United States. Some Americans do not agree with things the current government does, in part because our media can express itself freely, therefore we have the knowledge to be critical of our government, and hopefully to try to change it. China’s government has brainwashed their people, and control all of the media in the country. Because of links and threads on this site a Chinese person in China most likely cannot read this.
Our government has made some large mistakes (entering Iraq, Abu Gharib, etc.) but these things are widely reported by our media, whom if anything teach us to be more critical as citizens and voters. China’s government does not allow this, and when you control the information people recieve you control what they think and believe. So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
I guess I’m just saying there is a big difference between China and the United States, even though the US certainly isn’t innocent.
So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
More like the government attempted to brainwash them. A LOT of people in China are more aware of things than we think. With the internet it’s really easy for a Chinese person to get information. Just too many connections to monitor, the flow of info is too quick, and firewalls are too easy to get around.
[Blaming and boycotting a nation of people because you perceive injustice isn’t as good as proactively doing something positive to improve your own community.
Um, its not perception, it is injustice. It is a fact that China sells arms to the Sudan, which are used for genocide. It is also highly likely that the government is violently cracking down on Tibetans, the whole no media being allowed there thing pretty much means just that.
Should you go to China, you may find a lot of well read people who have independent news networks and check references. No place is perfect, but saying, “they are brainwashed” with the implication that we are not, does nothing positive. You’d be supprised how many intelligent and well read communists there are by choice. Many of them are Tibetan. Some of these “brainwashed people” are quick to help strangers in a way I have seldom seen in urban environments. I’ve
How do these “independent” news sources get past the firewall and censorship? They don’t all that often. Talk to a Chinese person, chances are they believe some nonscence about their history and government.
had people pay for my lunch when I forgot my wallet, return large sums of money I had dropped, return my computer that I left, help me fix my moped which involved dissasembling it and borrowing tools from strangers, then refusing any form of compensation or even thanks. A taxi driver waited for 10 minutes hoping I would come by because I left my USB with vital research in his cab instead of stealing it. I would expect this in small towns, but not in a city of 10 million people. The crime rate is low and there are no drug needles on the street. The healthcare system is efficient, effective and cheap. Maybe we should be looking to China for what we can learn to improve our own communities, rather than commanding them to take actions we are unwilling to take ourselves
Great, I don’t have anything against Chinese people. These positives are there in spite of their government. The Chinese people deserve a better government. How many Chinese people died in the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward? How many have died or gone to prison for speaking out against their own government?
The world and the Chinese people deserve a better government.
[QUOTE=Andy Miles;855729] Some of these “brainwashed people” are quick to help strangers in a way I have seldom seen in urban environments. I’ve had people pay for my lunch when I forgot my wallet, return large sums of money I had dropped, return my computer that I left, help me fix my moped which involved dissasembling it and borrowing tools from strangers, then refusing any form of compensation or even thanks. A taxi driver waited for 10 minutes hoping I would come by because I left my USB with vital research in his cab instead of stealing it. I would expect this in small towns, but not in a city of 10 million people. The crime rate is low and there are no drug needles on the street. The healthcare system is efficient, effective and cheap. Maybe we should be looking to China for what we can learn to improve our own communities, rather than commanding them to take actions we are unwilling to take ourselves.[/QUOTE]
I agree that people can be too quick to villify an entire nation based on one issue, but to try and paint Chinese taxi drivers as paragons of virtue is going too far. Cabbies in China are as bad or worse than anywhere else. Crime is low to the extent that the gov. quashes any reporting (or compiling) or crime data. The health care is cheap because its … well, cheap with all that implies. Westerners are often too quick to cast blanket condemnation of the whole country, I agree, but that’s not rain falling no matter how much you want it to be.
[QUOTE=bodhitree;855268]Yes you are right, we’ve done some pretty bad things, BUT you can express them and I can read them on a computer here in the United States.
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Our government has made some large mistakes (entering Iraq, Abu Gharib, etc.) ..
..snip… So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
I guess I’m just saying there is a big difference between China and the United States, even though the US certainly isn’t innocent.
Thanks for your thoughts![/QUOTE]
See that’s the problem right there. Our ability to read about and complain about our own govt. problems is a red herring. The other items you mentioned, Abu Gharib and selling our own weapons to far more brutal dictatorships than just those at Darfor…these things remove our “moral authority” to speak on China’s abuses. Unless we clean up our own act, it is just none of our f’ing business. 2 wrongs don’t make a right but criticism from a hypocrite is just worthless, inappropriate and just plain stupid.
The United States is in no position right now to be criticizing China on human rights. HUMAN rights apply equally to muslims, illegal immigrants and so on as well. Since the rest of the world are not US citizens, the rights and freedoms of US citizens living withing the borders of the US…are pretty irrelevant to a discussion of the US human rights record. China and the rest of the world these days all pretty much think that the USA needs to take a big fat dose of STFU for a change.
English dubbing for the previous clip of the French senator talking about the Tibet issue:
[QUOTE=omarthefish;855770]See that’s the problem right there. Our ability to read about and complain about our own govt. problems is a red herring. The other items you mentioned, Abu Gharib and selling our own weapons to far more brutal dictatorships than just those at Darfor…these things remove our “moral authority” to speak on China’s abuses. Unless we clean up our own act, it is just none of our f’ing business. 2 wrongs don’t make a right but criticism from a hypocrite is just worthless, inappropriate and just plain stupid.
The United States is in no position right now to be criticizing China on human rights. HUMAN rights apply equally to muslims, illegal immigrants and so on as well. Since the rest of the world are not US citizens, the rights and freedoms of US citizens living withing the borders of the US…are pretty irrelevant to a discussion of the US human rights record. China and the rest of the world these days all pretty much think that the USA needs to take a big fat dose of STFU for a change.
English dubbing for the previous clip of the French senator talking about the Tibet issue:
It saves a lot of time from being wasted making rational points to someone who has already made up their mind that they are going to ingore any of your comments.
Feel free to continue to wallow in your ignorance. I won’t get in your way.
“to take away the torch is a sacrilage to the spirits of the olympic games. athletes trained hard for 4 years in order to compete for the highest honor in the world.”
[QUOTE=bodhitree;855247]Wow the Chinese government is so great! They also don’t hide anything from the media or help the Omar Al Bashir regime in the Sudan. And they never committed attrocities like the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution.
Great Job[/QUOTE]
and america is innocent too.
your point?
2 wrongs dont make a right.
enjoy, its their country they can do what they want.
