There is no room for a new style, a new style will be just like all the other styles, but with slight differences. For Martial Arts to develop, instead of another style being created, the current Martial Arts need to be categorised into clear sections. The beginning student will then know and be able to choose what he wants to learn and decide for himself what level he wants to be at for each category.When any person can easily chose to learn whatever he wants, Martial Arts will be at a whole new level.
Budoman - whereabouts in Staffordshire???
So, in this utopian scenario, who exactly decides what is useful and included and what gets jettisoned? And who or what monitors this authority, who “certifies” these arbitrers of style and technique?
woops, nevermind. I’ll ask the question in the original thread.
Sounds like he is one of those new-age Hippie teens.
Born in 1984.
Can I call you pup, bub.
I have been doing Japanese Martial Arts for two years,and have two first dans.
Lets see 2 Shodan (Beginner Rank) in 2 JMA in 2 Years. Smacks of McDojo to me. Or we got Won-Ton-Ton the wonder Puppy here.
Judo,Karate,Aikido,Jujitsu
Those are his interests, he doesn’t list the styles he studied.
Judo = Sports Ju-Jitsu
What style of Kara-Te ??
What stule of Aikido ??
What style of Ju-Jutsu ?? (Jitsu is aother word with a different meaning)
So he has no training in CMA(little in JMA), comes to a CMA Board and tries to tell People that have dedicated their lives to their arts and in plenty of cases, got more years training that he has living how to improve MA.
Sounds like either a TROLL or a serious mis-guided young Person.
May I suggest to all to stop wasting our time on him.
WOW! YOU ARE FANTASTIC!!
Awesome! Only two years of training and two first dans to show for it! You’re the man!
(No, you’re actually the troll. Hit the road, loser. REAL martial artists come to this board, and we can see through you like clear ice.)
It’s OK Budo - he lives near to me - I’m locked and loaded, ready to TAKE HIM DOWN!!! 
If a more subtle approach is required, I’ll take a quick recon of his address, and we can all pay www.sendacrap.com to bombard his letterbox.
no, budoman’s right.
there’s also no more room for personal expression or scientific discovery. so knock it off. let’s just stick with what we’ve got. okay?
stuart b.
Da.mn guys!
You could’ve just shot him. You didn’t have to chop the body into little pieces.
water dragon,
“so the student becomes the master.”
didn’t we do this dance last week? but you were leading that time.
Originally posted by apoweyn
[B]water dragon,
“so the student becomes the master.”
didn’t we do this dance last week? but you were leading that time.
[/B]
No. I asked a question because I had doubts as to someone’s credibility. I asked my questions in a polite manner as well as my reason for asking the question. I remained polite and cordial even after the individual tried taking personal stabs at me. Not the same situation.
OK, you know i made up those details, but that was written ages ago and I dont know how to change my profile. I suppose it was a bit sad lying about my grades. Sorry.
Budoman, to answer you question:
My Gong Fu is somewhat of a synthesis of everything I have learned. It will continue to be like this in the future. If and when I decide to teach someone, I will teach them what I know. This means if I think one teacher taught this extraordinarily but one teacher taught that extraordinarily, my “stuff” will be a synthesis of the two.
So yes, there are only a finite number of pieces
But No, as it is HOW you put the pieces together that is important.
- Top of page - User Control Panel
- Edit Profile
- Retype real qualifications, i.e. “6 months training in the Gracie Total Defense CD-Rom”
- FOR THE THIRD TIME WHERE IN STAFFS!!!
water dragon,
i’m pulling your leg, mate. i got caught being hypocritical. dig?
stuart b.
waterdragon,
Please forgive Ap.
He’s a brit and has a **** poor sense of humor
I suppose it was a bit sad lying about my grades.
Not at all, once you have all of Martial Arts regulated and graded the way you like, you can award yourself as many bloody dans as you like!
budoman,
now that the bitter pill has worn off and i’m (hopefully) not being a jackarse, let me try this:
you’re supposing that the style is paramount over the people that practice it. but as water dragon pointed out, styles govern people. but people also govern styles. the styles change in subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways due to people’s interaction with them.
so to say that we shouldn’t change the existing styles runs kinda contrary to human nature, to my mind. i mean, is the eskrima i teach going to look like the eskrima my instructor did? given that he was a 5’3" filipino who was quick as a jack rabbit and i’m a tall, lanky englishman who’s quick as a… much older jack rabbit, it’s kind of unlikely. my eskrima will have changed because of my involvement.
however, i do have to concede that there are a lot of reinventions of the wheel going on. but as always, it falls to us as individuals to make judgments about what new things are bollocks and what are genuine contributions. and i don’t know that an established criteria can necessarily handle that.
stuart b.
Da.mn Brits
My idea only came from a thought that came into my head a few days ago. The idea was that it could be a good idea to write a new syllabus, which would change the way that Martial Arts were practised. There could be levels. 1-10 would be like white belt to black belt. then the levels can keep going up after that by the teacher practising various katas and refining his favourite moves. This may sound similar to the way things are done now. What is the major difference is the choice that the student makes. The student could work with his teacher at what he wants to learn. To reach a level the student has to accumalate points in various parts of the assessment. He could chose what his strengths would be. Each part would get marked out of ten. It is all then totalled up and to get to the new level, he has to get on average 8/10. This For example, a level one assesment for judo would be:
Breakfalls- Competence in protecting himself from any damage ?/10
Pulling/pushing- Able to move opponent in any direction ?/10
Blocks- Blocks from two punches ?/10
Throws- any one throw and any trip ?/10
Exercise - small fitness test ?/10
Theory - Knowledge of the rules ?/10
Total ?/60
Average ?/10
Grade ?
Ready for next assesment yes/no
Overall score ?
The overall score would be more usefull in higer levels for seeing how high he has scored on each part. The student cannot go to level 2 until he has avgd 8/10. He cannot go to level 3 until he has recieved 10 on all parts in level one.
As you can see, this is completely different to how people are graded now. And i think that this way would be more fun, what are your opinions?
OK people, to recap:
“Whereabouts in Staffordshire do you live?”
I’m not asking for an address, just a town. Don’t worry, I’m not going to stalk you for months until you are alone in some carpark in the middle of Hanley where I can ritulistically beat you with an iron bar, I’m just curious - OK!
I live in Staffs too - that’s why I’m asking. No?
And Water Dragon - you are pushing a FINE line over there