Those who know....

not saying you don’t

I’m saying that it’s not covered to the same degree as it is Taiji (in the respective forms)

I get the impression that throwing/grappling is a last resort in WC - the preference is to destroy the opponent before it gets to that stage. Just my perception of an art I don’t study :slight_smile: - feel free to clarify…

Taiji doesn’t cover fist/elbow striking to the same degree (in terms of forms - individual practice is what you make of it). If I spar with WC people and I let them keep that range on me I get pasted - equally if I get to close grappling range then they get pasted. It’s quite good fun - they get thrown to the floor vs me getting a split lip (again).

I don’t see it either a deficiency of WC or an advantage of Taiji - just a difference in emphasis.

One point of correction - our elbows are out but we aren’t open. It’s a common misconception that WC people have when they look at Taiji pushing hands - it’s just different. You may think you could go through the middle like a train but you’d be surprised that it isn’t that simple. It’s kind of like someone saying “WC guys keep their elbows in so I could hook them easily” - you’d find that funny I’m sure :slight_smile:

Nice discussion…

“If ignorance is bliss, why aren’t more people happy?”

Kaitain

I think some branches may just have different emphasis. In the branch I study, we value close body fighting methods. There are some examples up at http://www.wingchunkuen.com/sumnung/sequences.shtml

Rgds,

RR

Kaitan

A clarification per your suggestion and also like you no suggestion of automatic suoeriority of one art over another: I am not in your area, so I dont know who you “spar” with and what wing chun you have seen.Good wing chun is as close quartered as any art that I have seen. Also I was unclear on your comment on taiji elbows. Chen taiji has very good elbow work.