There is no WCK?
So there is no Karate? So basically there is no anything. Everything is affected by everything. Even in small ways. This is a silly topic because even if White Crane is almost identical one little difference is enough to define it a different style. Ling Tings W.T is different enough from other W.C that he could call it something completely different if he so desired. E.g southern centerline boxing or something. Then you add a few centuries to it and you have hundreds of variations of it and something quite different but wiht amazing similarities at the same time.
So remind me what the point of this topic is again?
Originally posted by Miles Teg There is no WCK?
So there is no Karate? So basically there is no anything. Everything is affected by everything. Even in small ways. …
So remind me what the point of this topic is again?
The point is very very clear. So what is the uniqueness of WCK?
If one cann’t spell it out very clearly. Then, WCK is just a name without content.
Can’t say there is no Karata. Kyukushin has both SanChin and Muay Thai modification kicks… That is Kyukushin’s uniqueness.
Originally posted by yenhoi
[B]Phenix: Why would the soft crane import snake? Or does it not import snake?
I dont think I get it, but you are the most helpful.
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Hey, Hey, I am just having fun with you guys.
See, the snake. what is snake? that needs to be defined. Otherwise, it is just a symbol with no content.
Snake can be a shape or a type of motion. So, that has to be defined.
Is it a snake shape adding a Crane Shape to make WCK?
Or is it a snake movement embeded in the art combine with the potential of Crane which makes WCK.
Hahahaha, until one clearly define it there is no WCK.
I don’t know if you are capable to realize this or not, but the Matrix has just unplugged the real thread of WCK history. The black vested suit men are coming to assault this last remaining thread of WCners soon enough. Do you have the special key to unlock this riddle of existence or not? Time is running out. Open the door quickly! You are our only hope!
I don’t know if you are capable to realize this or not, but the Matrix has just unplugged the real thread of WCK history. The black vested suit men are coming to assault this last remaining thread of WCners soon enough. Do you have the special key to unlock this riddle of existence or not? Time is running out. Open the door quickly! You are our only hope!
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Oh no. While I am reading the order of phoenix.
and somehow, Fotimo get me trapped in the Red Junk and witness how the Qi with the mongolian wrestle killed a few Shao Lin monks and WCK.
One monk enter with a knee and he was taken wrest down… then JeeSin was killed by White Eyebows because of his wide horse stance…
Everyone is on the run. The center line punch has no used against the qing because they hit the elbow of WCners or the side chest point of the lung medirians…
The YGKYM was tolally destroyed. Because the YGKYM’s can be model by two upside down V and the waist section is the weakest link… they break the WCner’s via a down ward punch direct to the waist from chest sliding down while the Wcners do the Tan Sau…
Most people, Wong Wah poh was in hiding, Leong Yee Dai has fleet. Yik Kam and Cho soon jump out of boat… It is the ambus of the Fine Jade… lots die… Lee Man Mau fleet
It is a horible horible thing to witness all what happen here… they starts burning boat now…
LOL! sounds like a new TVB TV series, episode one!
too bad Lum Jing Ying and Leslie Cheung are not with us anymore, otherwise they could be Leung Yee Tai and Yik Kam. Sammo Hun can still be Wong Wah Bo.
Got cha! The portal has just been opened. Noooo!.. Where do these humongous human-like snakes come from? They are crushing every squirming WCners like me. Where are the butterfly swords when I need them most? Where are the crane bird in my most desperate hour? Somebody send me the 6 1/2 pole…Aarg! Aarg! The rest is silent…
Originally posted by yylee
[B]LOL! sounds like a new TVB TV series, episode one!
too bad Lum Jing Ying and Leslie Cheung are not with us anymore, otherwise they could be Leung Yee Tai and Yik Kam. Sammo Hun can still be Wong Wah Bo. [/B]
YY,
Yup. Lesli and Lum can play those both…
Saga continous,…
Yip Ming-San order to totally burn down the opera house and kill whoever has red banner on thier head…
Godden brought his INVINCIBLE fire arm solder in cycling the place… in a night which light up by the blaze of the hand blaze.
under the blaze no one spare… no kungfu can resist bullets…
The Qing is winning. and the solder beside the westerners are people from Hu Nan and Hu Bei… Chen Kuo-FAn
s solder. and Some from SanDong… The solder of Ma Yee-Sin…
It is not about Qi Vesus Mandarin. It is about Power and self-righteousness… Kungfu lost in the face of scientific-----fire arm…
Got cha! The portal has just been opened. Noooo!.. Where do these humongous human-like snakes come from? They are crushing every squirming WCners like me. Where are the butterfly swords when I need them most? Where are the crane bird in my most desperate hour? Somebody send me the 6 1/2 pole…Aarg! Aarg! The rest is silent… [/B]
… They fleet to the west of the city… Towards Guan Xi … hiding.. but the army from out of state or northern were chasing them… those are Wu Nan and Wu Bei and Northern solders…
They are the followers of Cheng Kuo Fan.. It is not a war between Qing and Madarin…
It is about Cheng Kuo-Fan and Hung Siew-Chien. The top comandor of Qing and The God’s second son…
Nothing right and wrong. It is MO KAn Do or never ending way… it is about you score me once and I score you next. And the one last longer will win… And Lee Man Mau… Wong Wah bo… are just a chess pice of these two chief… They knows, Godon’s arms from the USA and GR are what they need. Kung Fu?.. just warm body to play thier game… The military training of Ming can no longer fight in the batterfield of 1852…
So will WCK survive? after those artists run away?..
Oldstyle Hung Gar uses the stance. Also Four lower tigers (ha say fu hung gar) and many other styles use the yee gee kim yung ma stance, pigeon toe, goat catching stance, whatever.
There is no mystery that you see similarities in forms and applications that are all derived from the same point. IE Shaolin Temple Fist methods.
Wing Chun is a distillation of fighting concepts, packaged neatly into three forms, an augmentation piece and two weapons. It is meant to be taught quickly and for someone to become adept at it inside of 2 years. That is it’s whole purpose in it’s beginnings.
Teach people to fight and make sure they learn fast because the man is at teh gate and we need those fighters.
anerlich- many who practice martial arts take offense at the term gwai lo btw. I prefer honky mofo myself
There is indeed Tibetan crane, Chinese Crane and Okinawan Crane. They share very superficial similarity and are not the same systems at all.
As for snake in WC, just keep practicing the thrusting fingers set until you understand where the snake is.
Bong sau is common to a great deal of kungfu styles, particular those of the southern hailing.
Afterall, a human body is a human body, afetr a few thousand years, it’s been figured what it is and how it works in combat, martial “arts” are an expression of that understanding in part.
cheers
p.s, you may now return to your regularly scheduled lineage bickering and name calling. hahahaha…gotcha
“If you do not question, you fail to learn, so ask questions and take nothing at face value, not even me.”
Disagreement is the impetus to prove. If there is no disagreement, there will be no proof, if you cannot prove something, it is not important overall. Just an observation.
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