the quickness

how do you improve the speed of your techniques?
how the hell do i get quicker??

quicker

Get quicker by doing them slowly.

Yea thats right…do them as slow as you can…
And just keep training correctly.

Practice doing them at the right time! (timing) :wink:

Just relax. Practice slowly will only help you do the techniques when you fight someone who moves in slow motion. Practice the techniques as if you are actually using them, but be relaxed.
Do you see boxers shadow boxing in slow motion?

practice slowly for form
practice fast in the air for speed
practice the bag for power

:slight_smile: thats what ive always been told

trav

if you never get into a fight,
you can never be defeated,
if you can never be defeated,
you are invincible

I do air punches that take like ten minuts or more for each of them.A friend of my sifu did it for like an hour and still does? everyday…he has devestating speed and power…

JiuKaiMan

Boxing isnt wing chun buddy…

not important

speed isn’t important… work more on timing and positioning…

when you really understand wing chun, and your stick is good, speed won’t be a factor

chi sao

what i understand about speed is…speed will beat power and the way to beat speed is sensitivity…so you dont have to be fast.so you can be as powerful and quick as you want,but if you’re more sensitve, it wont matter to you. does that make any sense to you?
simpleangles

Speed and power and all that.

Physical speed can be derived from a number of things. You can be genetically gifted with it, it can be a result of muscular memory, and also a result of relaxation. Not everyone will have all three of these, or even two of them. All but genetics can be improved upon. and Im assuming youre talking only about performance speed no? (Because theres mental speed, structural speed, and all sorts of facets)

But the equation for power, or force is M x V2=P. This equates to mass times velocity squared equals force or power. So speed is just a component of power (Simpleangles…)

What you can do simply stated…is practice what you want to get faster at…your muscles, the more they perform a specific movement, will become more and more efficient going through that motion, and will have a greater gap between effort and output, which is essentially what you want. The bigger the gap there… the less effort you will have to exert to achieve a maximum effect.

Another method of achieving speed, is your stuctural form. Make sure youre not tense when performing any movements. A general rule is to stay fluid and then only tense on impact, remembering to release right after. Thats with just about any movement that ends with a striking fashion, be it block or attack. Also, remember to try not to intentionally hit “hard”, doing this will also inhibit relaxation and ultimately take away from your goal.

Another aspect you can look at to help overall is your reaction time, or how fast your brain recognizes an impulse and gives you the proper response. This can be improved upon greatly in wing chun just due to all the sensetivity training! Just keep practicing the gor sau and other affliated partner drills and your reaction time will increase on its own. Thats the best advice I can give you there…and the easiest considering the medium that were using.

Hopefully, this has helped you and wasnt too long. These are the concepts I learned to get faster…and understanding the concepts first, will help in the aid of making them happen.

“From one thing know ten thousand” - Miyomato Musashi, Book of five rings

Martial Joe said: “I do air punches that take like ten minuts or more for each of them”

Holy crap! How many do you do? Has this seemed to cause improvemnt? Dude, you can’t just say something like that and not elaborate :slight_smile:

Iron

Relax to a point where you can feel you body (complete awareness). This involves correct structure. Once you have attained this when you want to do somthing you simply think about wanting to do the move; imagine the move, it be a punch or anything else, and in your mind see the move complete (whole range of moton from start to end and retract back to where it’s current position is (guard etc..) Now once you have visualised this process your mind already knows what has to be done! Becaue your body is in such a relaxed state, now you move the parts inside your body required to perform this move (Which will be programed into your mind…ie which parts to move in order to achieve result) this understanding is attained through performing the form repetivitly constantly adjusting your body. Concentrating on correct structure (will gives better relaxation) and focus (this is what martial joe is talking about in relation to the punches)

In summary, if your are a beginner in WC, dont worry about speed because as you can see there is a lot of work to be done before you get TRUE speed. Instead concentrate on getting your form right. everything else will fall into place once you master it! :slight_smile:

S.Teebas

One thing missing

You have put up some good advice, but there is one very important thing missing.

In a fight there are two different kind of speed,
Pure speed and percieved speed.
Its no good to be the fastest man alive, if you telegraph all your movements. If on the other hand you dont telegraph, you will be percieved as being much much faster, since your opponents reaction time will be far less or even non excistant.

But even more important than speed is timing. Timing is everything.

true, true

boxing isn’t Wing Chun?

The opposite. Boxing IS Wing Chun.

um…no man…

IronFist~I dont do alot because It gets kinda boring.I do the first form very slow once a day also,and then I do the first therd somewhat slow and then the rest at a normal speed for me for the rest of the times i do the form(I do each about 5 or more times a day).

When I do Chum Kui I do it powerful.I do it somewhat powerful normaly,as powerful as i can once,and then one slow and not to powerfull to see if I have any bad habbits burning up…

But,when you move that slow and you stay relaxed(or atleast try) you can feal everything,how certain muscles tense,how you can knowtis and prevent or train bad habbits out,etc…

So training slow defenitly has it benifits…I may have been in wing chun not 1/4 as much as most of the wing chun people here.But I think wing chun should be trained slow,and internaly,while also training externaly also.

Damn I love wing chun…

Well enough babaling…

Joe Kavey

[This message was edited by Martial Joe on 07-11-01 at 10:23 PM.]

the quickness

I agree. Relax. I’ve been training for about a year. If you can’t do the movements slowly and cleanly you won’t be able to do them fast and clean. It’s like playing an instrument. (Anybody here play guitar?) I practice scales slow and clean and even and relaxed, even though I’ve been playing for 15 years. I’ll practice a major scale, for example, 10 times slow with a metronome and on the 11th time play twice as fast and it’s so effortless.

Shadow Boxer…that is great stuff.My friends and I want to start a band but none of them can play! but they are getting there instroments and i will introduce this to them.Maybe it can help them greatly…

uhhh… yeah… man

Wing Chun is not boxing, but boxing is Wing Chun.