Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Muay Thai, and other medium-to-long-range styles which promote kicks. How do you deal with them if you practise short-range styles?
It’s all good to hear the theoretical side of closing the gap, but has anyone here applied those theories with success?
I train in Chow Gar Tong Long. I guess I’m just not up to training against ‘advanced’ kickers. All the kick defences I’ve been taught, seem rigid and too much force-on-force.
I’ve read stories about Wing Chun stylists who have had their arms broken, whilst trying to block TKD kicks, etc. What do you do to prevent that from happening?
if you’ve heard stories of wing chun guys breaking their arms i can tell you that they don’t know wing chun.
for the most part your arms don’t have to do that much when blocking kicks.
really the longest kick someone has is a side kick(unless they are running jumping kicks-then i suggest you just step out of the way & watch them fly by) & for it to have any power it should connect still slightly bent to have penetration, therefore you should only be half a step away from nullifying the kick or atleat taking most of its force away.
southern(if not all styles) have to be at a close range to employ their strikes so be cofident & move to this range quickly & you will generally find people from tkd & the like now feel very uncomfortable which should make your job easier.
also rember that stepping in whist they’re trying to kick will most likely take them off balance as they are only on one leg.
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Kicks delivered with power are usually easy to read and can be quickly avoided by moving out of the way. And attack quickly as soon as they complete the kick. They are often off balance from a highly commited kick.
I’ve done TKD for a while and know how quickly a side or a front kick can come. And they can still come up with quite alot of power. Often the best thing to do is grit your teeth and block. And kick the groin area or knee immediately. That’s a very southern thing to do hey.
Unfortunately if you’re on the street, blocking a kick could cause much damage because shoes hurt more than bare feet. But kick those nuts, smash that knee, and punch his face silly.
(Bowing in)
The best way to defend against a kick , is to not to be there when the kick get there. I am not saying this having studied Gung Fu. I am saying this from growing up in the street of Chicago.
Also there arts along with the one I studied that teach you to strike before the kick or punch is thrown.
Trust me if someone kick you and you step under the kick the things that you can do are endless
when i was training karate i was mainly a kicker
here is a list of somethings a kicker (atleast me)
does not like some of this is probably not the best thing to do against a very skilled kicker
there is alot more but it is best to be shown
stuff like this plus i have a hard time trying to
explain what i mean in english
1.attack at ones just (he can only kick one or two times if he is really fast)
2.try to move to the sides instead of back and forth
3.when he retreats imediatly follow (QUICKLY) cuz
then he need distance
dont attack direct on him because that is easy to defend with a front kick
attack from the sides
specially from the from the side that his back is open so if youre facing him and he has the left foot up move froward and right he will then
have to reatreat or change the foot he is standing on
5.Block the leg when it is Close to the Body (his body) beacause there is no power in the kick
try to get him to retreat if u think it is difficult to punch when youre reatreating just try kickeing
Stepping in and blocking a high kick a bit further up the kicker’s leg means that you block before the kick reaches full power, and you are blocking a point with less leverage and so it is less likely to do damage. It also puts you into striking range for hand techniques.
My success with blocking the kicks of TKD stylist, was to use Pek Jeung against the instep of the kicking foot, or to block with the forearm against the shin during a roundhouse kick or a front kick.
In each situation, my opponent stopped immediately after the block, because the shin or foot became injured with bruises and lumps.
But it may be that I was just fortunate in these situtaions.
Peace
Je Lei Sifu
The Southern Fist Subdues The Fierce Mountain Tiger
Half the problem is people think that sth systems kicks aren’t so good. There’s more ranges than just kicking range, ya can’t kick your way out of everything , sooner or later you have to get close to punch on.Or biu ji chan cheun soi kiul ,
Half of you obviously have never fought a decent kicker, as you are clearly living in a fantasy land and giving stock shorthand answers. Slow, move out the way etc etc etc.
OK, lets key in another factor here, timing. A decent kicker will attack you when you have all the weight on one foot, or you are off balance. He will lead with his hands first to draw your hands, or he will wait for you to attack and create an opening. Unless he thinks it’s going to surprise you, he is not going to just suddenly kick. I have kicked many people in the head in training, in competition, and for real, and half of them never even saw it coming.
When fighting a kicker, the same principles apply as when fighting anyone. I would avoid using hard palm blocks as you are likely to damage your wrist. Move forwards and inside the kick, to diminish it’s power, and absorb it. This is very well facilitated by leg checking with the knee or shin. If it’s too fast, or the distance too short gather your forearms and again, absorb the kick, and if possible, drive your elbow into it. Anyone who’s ever kicked an elbow will tell you, there’s no pain quite like it.If you’ve used this defence, then you can try for a leg grab, which will then facilitate striking to the face and support leg, or a leg throw.
If you can’t get a leg grab, then instantly attack the face, which they will instinctively defend, leaving the body and legs exposed.
If you haven’t managed to get inside when you’ve blocked, then rush and attack as they put their foot down. They will be off balance, and only the most skillful will be able to get off a second kick at the shorter range.
When you’re on the offensive, utilise low kicks, stamps and sweeps, as this will diminish their ability to kick effectively.
I hope you’ve got enough pointers there.
“Weapons are the embodiments of fear,
the wise use them only when they have no choice”
Lao Tzu
You guys could also stop by a good TKD, Muay Thai or kickboxing school and study it for a little while. You’ll learn what works and what doesn’t real fast durng sparring.
there is only attack, dont let the opponent fight his fight, move in and go off.
if you sit back and fight a kicker and you are no good at that range he will pick you off everytime, use knees and elbow to distruct the leg coming in.