The meaning of Heaven, Earth, and human

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Originally posted by Hendrik
ask Rene, he beat me all the time. Oh Put Robert Chu on the list too, he also beat me all the time. So? big deal? Oh I fragture my elbow when I was sparing decades ago… There are along long line of people can tell you they beat me. As the one in my Judo class and my Kyokushin Class…:smiley:

there is not enough room for me to list all the people that have smacked me around :slight_smile:

good to see your regular guy side

i’m jumping off this thread you know i got no interest in old chinese terms and all that fortune cookie stuff ha ha

you guys have fun with it :slight_smile:

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Originally posted by Ernie
[B]there is not enough room for me to list all the people that have smacked me around :slight_smile:

good to see your regular guy side

i’m jumping off this thread you know i got no interest in old chinese terms and all that fortune cookie stuff ha ha

you guys have fun with it :slight_smile: [/B]

You need to be patient to read the Tien Dei Yan post. Because, you will know, There is a wrong turn. and it is very basic.

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Tin Yan Dei landed you on your ass… fact

Your posts are a tough read for anyone to make sense of… fact

You’ve said nothing of any knowledge in this thread you’ve created… fact

Robert and Rene beat you up all the time… fact

Glad we got this thread figured out. Next!

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Originally posted by duende
[B]Tin Yan Dei landed you on your ass… fact

Your posts are a tough read for anyone to make sense of… fact

You’ve said nothing of any knowledge in this thread you’ve created… fact

Robert and Rene beat you up all the time… fact

Glad we all got this thread figured out. [/B]

Why do you need to drain this much energy? hahahaha

Learn to relax.

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Tin - One Dimension
Yan - Another Dimension
Dei - Yet another Dimension
Tin Yan Dei - The Harmonious interaction and unity of the above mentioned dimensions.

None of which we will see any input from Hendrik about (sorry to disappoint you CD, its his M. O.) due to the likely fact he knows nothing about them, but has “valid proof that is from Shaolin” whch he won’t share (along the lines of the 4 Modes of Kiu sau BS.). For God’s sake Hendrik, why the bloody hell don’t you contribute to your own threads! (yeah, now, its getting somewhat emotional due to frustration, see the SNT Cyclic thread). Can’t you think of anything to say except a title/question? Maybe you need to rename your account ‘Wing Chun Tease’!!! That’s all you seem to do, tease the board with what could be very useful information and conversation potential that you won’t share anything based on your own expereinces. Much like a girl who will tease a guy because she knows he wants her. Maybe you get your rocks off by doing this crap. Oh, no, wait wait wait. I know, he can cop out by saying “I don’t have to share if I don’t want to.”

Hendrick has every right to post!

No one is disputing this, many just grow tired of his crap and such that he seems to be a master of.

Where is your Chan or Ch’an training when you react with pre-judice and bias?

Umm, you’ve already answered this question:

Dont you know I am just a human

Duende is also a human, just a normal guy. However, he’s not acting out of prejudice. Prejudice involves the word “pre”, meaning ‘before’. Prejudice it self is a derivitave of ‘prejudge’, or making a decision about something before knowing anything about it. That would be if he had just signed up without knowing anything about you and began attacking you. But, as you have built up quite the reputation for NOT sharing anything, for NOT contributing to your own posts, don’t be surprised when you get called out on it. In the real world, this is known as “You’re asking for it!” behavior, and now you got “it”. Due to this reputation, people will be BIASED against you. ****, I know that we’ve gone 'round this turn before, but get your bloody grammar and understanding of English down too, will you. You make it too easy to rip apart your arguments in a most logical and presice manner.

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Originally posted by Da_Moose

Duende is also a human, just a normal guy. However, he’s not acting out of prejudice. Prejudice involves the word “pre”, meaning ‘before’. Prejudice it self is a derivitave of ‘prejudge’, or making a decision about something before knowing anything about it. That would be if he had just signed up without knowing anything about you and began attacking you. But, as you have built up quite the reputation for NOT sharing anything, for NOT contributing to your own posts, don’t be surprised when you get called out on it. In the real world, this is known as “You’re asking for it!” behavior, and now you got “it”. Due to this reputation, people will be BIASED against you. ****, I know that we’ve gone 'round this turn before, but get your bloody grammar and understanding of English down too, will you. You make it too easy to rip apart your arguments in a most logical and presice manner.

Still not Zen at all! too much ego feeding. :smiley:

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I like Hendrik’s posts. But if you are only concerned with personal attacks you will not see the pearls. I am sure in a few years (hopefully sooner) you will see the errors of your ways. And if you really do not like his posts put him on ignore…

Heaven, Earth and Man are not seperate but are connected IMO.

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Tin Yan Dei landed you on your ass… fact

:eek: :slight_smile: :smiley:

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Originally posted by Da_Moose
Duende is also a human, just a normal guy. However, he’s not acting out of prejudice. Prejudice involves the word “pre”, meaning ‘before’. Prejudice it self is a derivitave of ‘prejudge’, or making a decision about something before knowing anything about it.
True, but because of his previous experience with Hendrik, he now prejudges everything that Hendrik has to say. It seems that he automatically discounts everything Hendrik says before he really reads it. He just attacks it. Just another form of prejudice, IMO.

I may be wrong here, but as an objective observer, that’s what I see.

If you don’t like it, ignore it. If nobody likes it, everyone will ignore it, the posts will have Zero responses and that will be that. We’re throwing gasoline on the fire, and then complaining that we are getting burnt. There’s a certain twisted logic to this strange dynamic.

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Matrix,

Do I read his posts??? Only when they make direct mention of my lineages concepts and philosophies. Otherwise, I could care less.

Have I prejudge him?? No. Have I judged him. Yeah… I call a spade a spade.

All I did was offer what I know to be a real experience Hendrick has had with Tin Yan Dei. That’s the truth, not a personal attack.

Two separate threads and upteen posts later, he still has not offered even the slightest tiniest bit of real knowledge of Tin Yan Dei.

Like I said before, this thread and the one before it, and now the one after it are all attacks.

Your just not aware of it.

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Originally posted by duende
[B].

1, All I did was offer what I know to be a real experience Hendrick has had with Tin Yan Dei. That’s the truth, not a personal attack.

2, Two separate threads and upteen posts later, he still has not offered even the slightest tiniest bit of real knowledge of Tin Yan Dei.
[/B]

attach to one’s own truth is by itself the signature of Pre-judice isnt it?

Nah, Not Zen at all. :smiley:

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Originally posted by duende
[B]Like I said before, this thread and the one before it, and now the one after it are all attacks.

Your just not aware of it. [/B]
Sometimes, the answer is in the question, but you need to look. note that you may not find anything…

I don’t want to debate the legitimacy of anyone’s posts. It’s a public forum, and as such you and Hendrik are free to argue. I’m just trying to make an observation. I do not know either of you from Adam.

Like I said, I may be wrong. I can only see what I can see, no more than that. How is it that some people are not put off by Hendrik, and others are so offended by his words? If he says nothing, how can we be offended by nothing? That which we focus on becomes real. By focusing more attention on his words, you are actually adding more power to them. At least that’s what I see.

Peace

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Originally posted by Matrix
[B]

That which we focus on becomes real. By focusing more attention on his words, you are actually adding more power to them. At least that’s what I see.

Peace [/B]

Very True.

(abstract from— To hendrik, from the mad man.)

let go your fire within you.
it blinds you.
I am not your enermy. observe clearly.
your emotion and intent of using all means or any stories to defeat/punished your anermy which feeding your ego is.

That ego wants more everytime, when the action of punished others doesnt work, it gets to even more burning in there.

I take your are decendent from Shao Lin.
and there is no way to arive into salvation with those type of thoughts. no samadhi.

Zen means drop it. Who is always right anyway? to be able to allow everything to support one is the biggest merit in this world. for there on, there is no lost and ofcorse no Win too. but peace.

Ok I am back to sing my starry starry night.

Being with the vast blue sky, singing with peace and listerning to the silence, allow the earth power to support my laying old body.

isnt it Heaven, Earth, and Human? Not a thing but everything is one “piece”?

Can one have that at every instant no matter what one does?

one has to “see” it first before getting there… MAD ofcorse. hahahahah

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I may be wrong here, but as an objective observer, that’s what I see.
Your post aren’t that hard to read Bill, where is your objectivity for everyone else. Why can’t you ignore duende or Da moose and concentrate on hendik or don’t you follow your own advice.

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The way to nuetralize the power of mis-information is to provide the truth.

That is the way to harmony of the natures… Chan.

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Originally posted by canglong
Why can’t you ignore duende or Da moose and concentrate on hendik or don’t you follow your own advice.
I don’t have a problem with Da moose or Duende. Their posts don’t bother me at all. I’m just pointing out that the more they fight with Hendrik the more fuel they add to the fire. To extinguish the fire, remove it’s supply of oxygen. It will die off if you stop giving it what it needs.

Objectivity is in the eye of the beholder. :wink:

By the way, If you want me to “get lost” then I will do so.
No problem…

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I’m just pointing out that the more they fight with Hendrik the more fuel they add to the fire.
One man’s fight is another man’s reply.

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Originally posted by canglong
One man’s fight is another man’s reply.
Like I said, no problem…

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Originally posted by Matrix
Like I said, no problem…

Bill,

Is it the right time for another drink? Rum and Coke for me, and you?

In everything the taste of the many carries the day. :wink:

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Originally posted by Rhat
[B]Bill,

Is it the right time for another drink? Rum and Coke for me, and you?

In everything the taste of the many carries the day. :wink: [/B]
Rhat,
I’m one step ahead of you brother. :smiley: