I am creating a new thread so that the other one can finally end and folks here can move on.
I LOST THE FIGHT. i went to th East Wind Training Hall with low spirits, for i did not have the support of my teacher or anyone really at my school. i was accompanied by a long time friend and SD student that does not go to very often to class, as my represenative.
REEMUL has more full contact experince than i and was able to handle himself against me. i Walked away with several things that night. 1. Bruised Ribs 2. a new outlook on my training regimen and relationship to the SD school. 3. a ally with whom i will train with 4. Respect.
I do not feel upset at losing the fight nor do i feel that what i do is no good. in fact I KNOW that what i do is solid,,,it is sad though that OUR school does not train that much in REALISTIC sparring. but i do not wish to put down my school or make them responsable for me. but it would have been nice to have the support of my teacher with whom i have dedicated 7+years to not to mention SD itself. That is the only anger i feel a this point. i do honor the CONTENT of SD and GM SIN.
SO To all of you. there it is. i will not go into detail about the fight itself. Reemul can do that or he can post whatever he wishes. but i do feel that some apologies are in order to those who have made him out to be the bad guy in this. You don know a man until you meet him eye to eye. I have,,,,and i can tell you that REEMUL is one of the "good ones" here.
MAny Respects , Willow SWord
It’s not good when your school/sifu doesn’t back what you do, especially in something like this. I am glad to see that you have learned something out of this…and Reemul too…and I seriously hope that we can ALL put this to rest!
i have read this with interest and now that the result is known, it is a good thing that you have shared this with others.
fighting depends on what you want out of it. i do not understand why you didn’t have the support of your gwoon, i can only ask if you don’t mind, did you have their consent to fight on behave of them. if yes, then point blank you should walk away from them.
if no, then it is understandable why they didnt support you.
fighting is a strange thing, it brings on many emotions, many fears, to walk into the fight with another who was also willing to participate is courage in itself.
only you will know if the result of the fight was what you where expecting, achieving, realising.
it appears you have one the fight on one level even though you feel you lost it on another.
reemul has good mo duk to have stayed closed till you opened up the door.
cant win all the time, live and you learn.
my apologies to willow sword and reemul for playing the role of instigator.
you did good to stand up for yourself and travel such a distance,
learn what you can from that experience and become better at what you do.
all the best.
Monkey slap: never been nor will i EVER be a kung fu burglar.
Fu Pow: i’d rather not go into details about that, my ground has always been shakey with the school due to my independance. i want to leave it at that.
Thankyou for the good responses/the future responses positive and negative.
Many Respects<<Willow Sword
Question-Do you think your lack of support affected your fighting ability/intent.
This is not a cop out.
Many times when I go out and get into a fight, I find that if I have a worthy reason to fight, I fight more fluidly aqnd aggressively than when Im fighting over something stupid with no real value behind it.
And reemul has STILL failed to convince you that Shaolin Do sucks.
All of his unkungfulike asinine *****ing has not convinced you to drop Shaolin Do. Despite getting beaten, you’re STILL embracing your style.
Not only that, he respects you - or he OUGHT TO. If your style was so bad, he’d continue to spew insults and hatred about you. If you were really that terrible, we’d be hearing about it from him right arond NOW.
Thus your mission was accomplished! You have earned Shaolin Do respect.
I for one would love to see how things shape up in a NEUTRAL location - and you in your proper state of mind.
No matter how many times I tell you and others how I feel about something you look beyond the meaning of my words into some parallel universe that you dreamt up and creat your own.
It has never been my mission to convince Willow to leave Shaolin-do, as I told him after the fight “If you like what your doing then continue to do it” That does not mean I respect SD. That does not mean I accept SD as shaolin.
I think it’s funny that you accuse me of spewing hatred. Im sorry I can’t be like you pretentious psuedo Buddhist who spout off some homemade proverbs that equate to " can’t we all just get along". I don’t spend time hating anyone. I am straight forward and I say what I mean and I don’t sugar coat my responses. If you don’t like it thats too bad.
Lets face it HuangKaiVun, your just mad the outcome wasn’t to your liking.
Great courage from both of you and even with revealing the results. I believe everyone agrees that martial arts in the end builds discipline and spiritual strength, and much much more.
I do not neccesarry agree that it is or isnt a style of fight that wins, it depends on so much more, but the important thing is that the only thing that really got hurt was a little bit of attachment to self, and now you are both shinning of respect and honour.
I know I am nobody to say this, but congratulations to both of ya !
I posted this on the other thread. I think it’s true…
Under the watchful gaze of that hairy monk dude and the five ancestors, TWS and Reemul met on the fighting floor.
Reemul launched into a whirlwind of action, tiger claws slahing tearing and rending the very air itself, as TWS bent over backwards to avoid the blows in slow motion. A single, precise, rocket like kick shot up before both WTS and Reemul suddenly had thier attention pierced by a bloodcurdling scream.
As the dust settled around them, and a flock of doves flew past in slow motion, TWS and Reemul looked up to see that hairy dude getting a body shave from the five ancestors.
Enraged at this afront to diginity, TWS and Reemul attacked the five ancestors together. Much to thier surprise, the hairy dude was liking the shave. Forced to fight thier own history, they dusted the hairy dude and the five ancestors, leaving themselves alone together on the fighting floor amidst a pile of vanquished myths and broken bodies.
Reemul’s foot cut a slow half circle in the dust.
TWS slowly looked up and said: ‘Beer?’
Reemul nodded and croaked out one fateful word. ‘Beer.’
