Simon is the BIGGEST fraud in the Canadian martial arts community BAR NONE… he started out with a school in Vancouver in the early seventies; Simons’ School of Karate & Guitar. He is a Kenpo person, that jumped on the Kung Fu bandwagon of the 70s. He could not have trained in China prior to the his starting a school in the 70s as China was closed. Shaolin temple, the one in Fukien/Fujian (probably Tookien Shiulin that he refers to in his ads), was not in existence during that period and Fukien would have been inaccessible to foriegners. Shaolin temple, the main one in Songshan, Honan would have also been inaccessible although there were a few monks around at that time. And even so if he were to have trained at that time he would have had to have spoken Mandarin, Simon can not! Simon is a lot like the EFC schools, dumb down your clients so that they don’t know what’s real out there. And it seems to have worked with you KF Guy!
Go to an open Tournament in your area or better yet check out some other schools, take advantage if they let you try a class or two. You’ll see, we’re not just saying these things to pick on you.
I live in a Canadian town called stoney creek. The only places within 40 minutes of me are karate, taekwondo, and kickboxing, and temple kung fu in hamilton. Where I lived before I took brazilian jiu jitsu and was told how much of a joke tkd and karate is, so I went with the only place that wasn’t tkd/karate, and I don’t regret my decision! I sure hope I don’t regret my decision, I dumped thousands of dollars into it
Well no, I am learning good techniques from teachers 1 on 1, which is exactly what I want. I’m guessing you guys pay monthly, right? Well total up all that you’ve spent over the course of 3-4 years, and I bet it’s not too much different than what I’ve spent.
Your right man, we’re all mistaken. I’m Quiting all the Dojo’s I train at and sighning up At a Temple KungFu MCDojo right away! How could I have been so silly not to follow the teachings of the dinky sham scam. Oh my! I hope he will forgive me :rolleyes: Please.
KungFuGuy, how do you know tht your techniques are any good?
For that matter, how do you know that your instruction is any good?
Does your school do any full contact sparring?
JWT
If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV
Johnny, I’m not saying that your schools suck, I’m saying that mine is just as good as any of yours. You’re the one criticizing my school.
We don’t do any full contact sparring that I know of, but I’m not expert level yet.
I know my instructors are good because I’ve been at other schools. Haven’t you been listening? The techniques are good because they are better than those I’ve learned at other schools, and they seem very effective and practical.
So what do you want me to do anyway? You say you’re not picking on me, but all I see are insults towards me and my school. I don’t see any advice at all. Who thought a bunch of kung fu students could be such vindictive pricks
[This message was edited by KungFuGuy! on 10-25-01 at 03:36 PM.]
KFGUY,
You stated that you havent sparred and coupled it with that you were not an expert.
Just to give you a barometer, I was asked to spar my 3rd week in kung fu. By 3 months I was asked to defend the school. I dont know about your master’s dids and donts but sparring is a sure fire way to test your techniques. It is a integral part of application and if your not sparring yet, you may want to suggest it to your instructor.
Too bad there aren’t better places in your area. You should look harder or be willing to travel farther for real kung fu, but then again, some people are happy settling for cheap quality.
Have you seen Olaf Simon’s mansion in the Kootenay mountains of BC ? He built it with the millions of dollars he swindled from kung-fools. I’ve met Richard Shergold, the man who brought up that lawsuit against Olaf Simon, and I’ve met, or know almost everyone mentioned in that trial. He started his first school in my hometown, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. SIMON KARATE. The Chinese sifu’s mentioned in the trail disproved all that crap Simon tried to tell about his “mysterious” past. War Veteran??? Polish Army? German (Nazi) Army? or maybe the Qing Imperial Army? hahaha. Did you hear the one about how he used to call himself “Dr” Simon. Another good fairy tale.
You may think it is quality martial arts, just because a lot of schools are even lower level than Simon’s. Go check out more schools. See some kung fu documentaries / demonstrations / books, etc. If real kung fu masters in their 80’s and 90’s can still perform splits, one finger hand stand, qing gong, etc. how come Simon sucks so bad? (especially since he’s a “silver sash”
Kungfuguy- I know how you feel, as an ex-temple member i understand but bro, come on, Simon is as fake as it gets, jr. black belts, 20 yr old teachers, 200$ seminars, the teachers skill level is horrible, mabye you haven’t seen a real kung fu player, to know the diffrence, anyways, its better you find out now instead of later.
Also, you say that your not at expert level yet, well, i know guys who trained for over 7 years at the Temple and still left due to the bullshit.
What does that tell you???
So i suggest you look for a new school,the same way i did, and if you go tell your Temple RATS that the school is being punked off on some fourm,do you think they care?
NO!!! for them it is not about skill its about money, i hope you got lots…you’ll need it.
BTW- Call the Toronto school tell Mr. Murry i said hi!!
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Its not what goes in a man that defile’s him, its what comes out.
Another insult? Grow up, jerk.
I took kickboxing before and didn’t like it. And don’t forget, when I joined temple kung fu I thought it was authentic kung fu, and apparently I was wrong.
If you actualy read some of my posts in this thread then you’d know that I live in stoney creek in Canada, near Hamilton.
