TCMA Class Group Photo

Most look like this: 30 to 50 people total. A lot of little kids, old people, middle aged but out of shape people, skinny as waif people, over weight people, one or two younger people with a bit of a hard edge look to them.

What’s the Sifu to do? - he’s got one or two with potential or desire to fight. It’s worse if it’s only one.

Truth is, we all know good to great traditional Sifu who have the skillz. Some post here. Occasionally good fighting students pick up the torch and continue the legacy. But something else is happening too because TCMA is losing it’s reputation as a fighting art sooo - either they have the skillz but don’t know how to teach them, or they don’t have the students who are willing and able to learn, or they are teaching using a one size fits all approach that’s obviously not working (talking about transmitting fighting skill only).

dont teach for money and all those people wouldnt be in the photos.

[QUOTE=MightyB;1123663]Most look like this: 30 to 50 people total. A lot of little kids, old people, middle aged but out of shape people, skinny as waif people, over weight people, one or two younger people with a bit of a hard edge look to them.

What’s the Sifu to do? - he’s got one or two with potential or desire to fight. It’s worse if it’s only one.

Truth is, we all know good to great traditional Sifu who have the skillz. Some post here. Occasionally good fighting students pick up the torch and continue the legacy. But something else is happening too because TCMA is losing it’s reputation as a fighting art sooo - either they have the skillz but don’t know how to teach them, or they don’t have the students who are willing and able to learn, or they are teaching using a one size fits all approach that’s obviously not working (talking about transmitting fighting skill only).[/QUOTE]

TCMA do not attract fighters.
Hence a teacher can wait to be lucky or use his discretion as to who he has is best suited to carry the fighter role.

Why does the MOD allow gung fu bashing on a kung fu forum by people who’ve lost their faith in TCMA? :confused:

because you are all weak omega males. we are alpha. we do what we want.

we are rampage jackson. you are ariel helwani.

[QUOTE=Snipsky;1123670]Why does the MOD allow gung fu bashing on a kung fu forum by people who’ve lost their faith in TCMA? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Who is bashing TCMA ?

Who is bashing TCMA ?

uh, no one…i guess.

LOL. The reason the class looks like that is because the CLASS IS NOT HARD.

Make the class hard, and soft people drop out. Problem solved.

[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1123679]LOL. The reason the class looks like that is because the CLASS IS NOT HARD.

Make the class hard, and soft people drop out. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]

then the college dropout cant make money and will have to find a real job, that needs hard work and dedication, like mcdonalds.

In a roman legion, every century had 6-8 battled hardened men. The other 80 or 90 were fodder.

Any fighting unit requires experienced members. But not all of them are.

So, in the sense of any school that teaches, MOST of your students will not be fighters. they are there to learn, have fun, get some exercise and pick up a little self confidence. They may or may not come to complete ability as a fighter.

Even boxing clubs are like this. there are one or two guys who make the cut and everyone else is in it for the in it.

It’s ok.

Can you imagine what a crappy world it would be if we were all the same?

dull. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1123687]

Can you imagine what a crappy world it would be if we were all the same?

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it would be a beautiful , manly world.

[QUOTE=bawang;1123689]it would be a beautiful , manly world.[/QUOTE]

No, it would be dry, dull, boring. We’d all be the same, we’d all agree on teh same things, we’d all have the same perspective.

Trees don’t grow if they don’t get bent by the wind.
Motors don’t run if they don’t get used.
H0m0genous societies are failures for the most part.
Diversity is key to success in virtually all things.

it would be a beautiful , manly world.

no it wouldn’t. you’d complain about it because they wouldn’t be looking like YOU. :stuck_out_tongue:

if you dont teach for money, you dont need to compromise yourself. you wouldnt be worried about getting “popular” “mainstream”. you wouldnt dehumanize or objectify students as sources of income.

then you wouldnt have thoese limp wristed homersexuals in your photo, with those empty , empty eyes.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1123669]TCMA do not attract fighters.
Hence a teacher can wait to be lucky or use his discretion as to who he has is best suited to carry the fighter role.[/QUOTE]

I have wondered about this myself.

[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1123679]LOL. The reason the class looks like that is because the CLASS IS NOT HARD.

Make the class hard, and soft people drop out. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]

Does not always work that way. I have made classes harder and everyone drops out, even the tougher guys. Sometime it could be the neighborhood, I mean white collar areas are usually light on fighting and Low income and Blue collar areas are more fight oriented.

What makes up your kwoon will depend on the neighborhood, the mood of the people in that area, economic reasons, many factors can lead to dropping out at schools. This will then lead to who will be the Sifu in your Kwoon.

ginosifu

[QUOTE=ginosifu;1123702]I have wondered about this myself.

Does not always work that way. I have made classes harder and everyone drops out, even the tougher guys. Sometime it could be the neighborhood, I mean white collar areas are usually light on fighting and Low income and Blue collar areas are more fight oriented.

What makes up your kwoon will depend on the neighborhood, the mood of the people in that area, economic reasons, many factors can lead to dropping out at schools. This will then lead to who will be the Sifu in your Kwoon.

ginosifu[/QUOTE]

When I take someone on, the first year or so is basically MMA with a kyokushin/judo hybrid flavour.
For most that is enough.
Those that want more, I introduce TCMA.

[QUOTE=bawang;1123696]if you dont teach for money, you dont need to compromise yourself. you wouldnt be worried about getting “popular” “mainstream”. you wouldnt dehumanize or objectify students as sources of income.[/QUOTE]

All BS

I have offered classes for FREE in the past… sadly no one came. The American person puts a monetary value on everything. If it costs less or nothing then it has no value. If it costs more then it has value, hence the high priced McDojo’s making the millions they do.

ginosifu

[QUOTE=ginosifu;1123709]All BS

I have offered classes for FREE in the past… sadly no one came. The American person puts a monetary value on everything. If it costs less or nothing then it has no value. If it costs more then it has value, hence the high priced McDojo’s making the millions they do.

ginosifu[/QUOTE]

This, I can see from personal experience, is quite true.

[QUOTE=Snipsky;1123670]Why does the MOD allow gung fu bashing on a kung fu forum by people who’ve lost their faith in TCMA? :confused:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ginosifu;1123709]All BS

I have offered classes for FREE in the past… sadly no one came. The American person puts a monetary value on everything.[/QUOTE]

the problem is you teach in white bread middle class neighborhood, like you said.

when you teach for free they show their true colors.