Does any one utilize sticky hand concept in fighting…
What i mean is you use forward pressure and your horse to keep in contact someway with your opponent. Jamming his space so he cant retreat an dissolve the bridge?
Does anyone practice to sticking to their opponents center. Not really following the hands. But following the center.
Have a look at Clip 1 , it shows some ideas at work in a mutual exchange. What you see is mobility , angling , no attempts to trap and slap or stick to arms.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1137522]Have a look at Clip 1 , it shows some ideas at work in a mutual exchange. What you see is mobility , angling , no attempts to trap and slap or stick to arms.
Clip 1[/QUOTE]
thanks for the clip!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1137505]Does any one utilize sticky hand concept in fighting…
What i mean is you use forward pressure and your horse to keep in contact someway with your opponent. Jamming his space so he cant retreat an dissolve the bridge?
Does anyone practice to sticking to their opponents center. Not really following the hands. But following the center.[/QUOTE]
-----------------------------------------------------There are many concepts in chi sao -not one.
Chi sao is for skill development- it’s not fighting.
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1137523]thanks for the clip![/QUOTE]
check out the facebook link below and read along with the clips associated , you can see a pattern of thought and execution.
The chi-sao stages are confusing unless you are shown a method of developing striking while incorporating unity among the power points of the body ,along with alignment along the centerline.
The initial exercise many get wrong straight away and start feeling and following the arms using wrists and motion off the centerline alignment. This alone is a main reason for the ensuing misinterpretations.
The elbows are introduced in dan chi-sao to come in and become a centerline barrier as the arms learn to strike in unison with this concept.
Dan chi-sao is done at a distance that WONT allow contact to each others body so the emphasis isnt on hitting each other , but a mutual exercise in centered tan elbow prior to striking out and the partner responding by an inwards jum elbow prior to striking.
Each does an elbow idea using the other as a ‘marker’ to the centerline that will become the focus of all our lat sao chet chung as we move to attack this alignment in progressively complex modules of chi-sao and partnership that will develop allowing mistakes to be shown and ironed out.
When the initial unity of two actions is seen in Dan chi-sao , two stages of elbow first then punch or tan palm , we also see that this stage is redundant , in that we wont be striking in a 1-2 method as Dan chi-sao , but a simple unified 1 using the elbows without the stopping and starting .
We also dont follow each others hands to feel them we follow them to prove they are working correctly and adjust ourselves to re center elbows for another cycle…
We will start to ask each other to strike and use the actions in one motion rather than two to show the inception of a little idea has started 
at no time does one ask the other to ‘stick’ to the arms or use the wrists with movement any other direction than at the partners throat.
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1137529]-----------------------------------------------------There are many concepts in chi sao -not one.
Chi sao is for skill development- it’s not fighting.[/QUOTE]
You are correct chi sao is not for fighting. But should be used to train techniques that you can adapt to fighting…What i am speaking of is adapting your WC to fighting! Do you understand me?
I am not saying do chi sau with your arms open in a fight. Thats just sucide.
Look and what I actual wrote…WC is about principles and concepts and theory. How you innovate, adapt and apply those three things is up to you!
sticky sparring
hi kev great clip mate i saw a lot of good forward pressure movement, and then correct postion which is important regards russellsherry
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1137522]Have a look at Clip 1 , it shows some ideas at work in a mutual exchange. What you see is mobility , angling , no attempts to trap and slap or stick to arms.
Clip 1[/QUOTE]
The roots/rooting approach is different from what I train.
Besides that, it would be good for BOTH practitioners to apply forward pressure and use a mindset of NOT going back by using, among other things, angling. Then you will see new Wing Chun “doors” and possibilities in your practice. 
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1137673]The roots/rooting approach is different from what I train.
Besides that, it would be good for BOTH practitioners to apply forward pressure and use a mindset of NOT going back by using, among other things, angling. Then you will see new Wing Chun “doors” and possibilities in your practice. ;)[/QUOTE]
Going back angling is also in knife ideas, do you not go back doing knives ?
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1137676]Going back angling is also in knife ideas, do you not go back doing knives ?[/QUOTE]
Good Point?
You do realize there are WC people out there who believe you should never go back step!
I met one who had no back step at all in their curriculm!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1138157]Good Point?
You do realize there are WC people out there who believe you should never go back step!
I met one who had no back step at all in their curriculm![/QUOTE]
This is because someone misinterpreted the saying, “Wing Chun never steps back.”
It’s “Wing Chun never steps STRAIGHT back.” I’ve been taught the same thing in boxing.
[QUOTE=couch;1138161]This is because someone misinterpreted the saying, “Wing Chun never steps back.”
It’s “Wing Chun never steps STRAIGHT back.” I’ve been taught the same thing in boxing.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the insight!