[QUOTE=uki;963473]LOL… you are a more transparent than a plane of glass…[/QUOTE]
I call 'em like I see 'em.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;963474]I call 'em like I see 'em.[/QUOTE]take off the sunglasses next time…
[QUOTE=Lucas;963457]well i can tell you guys from experience, ninjas are the baddest dudes, cuz im a ninja, and i know these things. id give you video evidence, but im so ninja, i dont show up on film.
or wait…was that vampires…[/QUOTE]
vampire ninja?
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;963276]Now, what you have today are a lot of people who like “martial arts” but don’t like fighting… that’s just the truth. And that’s fine.
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Agreed.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;963278]
Are you content being able to beat a good percentage of hobbyists, or do you want to see how deep the skill you speak of really goes… how do you stack up against the scores of good fighters out there.
Just saying. Let’s be real.[/QUOTE]
Well if its a real fight we are talking about, my martial arts is good enough to where it will give me enough distance and/or time to pull out my gun and actually shoot my assailant. Been in a couple of street fights and faired well. Have yet to pull out my carry weapon though, but I could’ve.
In the ring, well, I’ve had my good days, and I’ve had my bad days.
But I do agree with your point. There are many schools out there that forget the fighting aspect of martial arts. Vice versa there are many schools out there that forget the other aspects of fighting.
Been like that since I started in martial arts. I am sure it will be like that after I die.
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But I do agree with your point. There are many schools out there that forget the fighting aspect of martial arts. Vice versa there are many schools out there that forget the other aspects of fighting.
Been like that since I started in martial arts. I am sure it will be like that after I die.[/QUOTE]
That’s a good point. In the end, there’s plenty of everything out there. It’s up to us as individual martial artists.
I myself am going to purchase my first gun with my next pay check. I want to learn how to maintain it safely and obviously use it accurately. Looking forward to it. In the past I’ve learned some weaponry but never focused on it. Always so much to learn standing. Now there’s so much to learn about grappling. So many possiblities.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;963508]I myself am going to purchase my first gun with my next pay check. I want to learn how to maintain it safely and obviously use it accurately. Looking forward to it. In the past I’ve learned some weaponry but never focused on it. Always so much to learn standing. Now there’s so much to learn about grappling. So many possiblities.[/QUOTE]get a 12 gauge browning auto-5, semi-automatic shotgun. 000 buckshot packs 8 shot at 0.36 inches in diameter, 00 is a 9 at 0.33. it’s all about the quantity when you have the quality. i practice with 1oz slugs on bricks at 50 yards, open, with no glasses for near-sightedness… of course you cannot legally conceal it, but it will still feed your family regardless…
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;963417]Sanjuro…that is my point, duels are prearrange encounters with rules of conduct…the real world of winning does not. Of course the samurai broke the rules in battle, but many times they did so behind the scenes so they could maintain an outward appearance of honor![/QUOTE]
i agree with ray that many kung fu arent good. im not good. western martial arts, everything white people do is superior to chinese peopel. you are right every thing you do is better. you have better martial arts you have better cars you have a penus so big. im just not interested in mma.
you walk your road i walk my road. we all sleep take a sh1t then die. just do what you want and stop worrying about other people. if they arent important to you why cares?
[QUOTE=xcakid;963496]Agreed.
Well if its a real fight we are talking about, my martial arts is good enough to where it will give me enough distance and/or time to pull out my gun and actually shoot my assailant. Been in a couple of street fights and faired well. Have yet to pull out my carry weapon though, but I could’ve.
In the ring, well, I’ve had my good days, and I’ve had my bad days.
But I do agree with your point. There are many schools out there that forget the fighting aspect of martial arts. Vice versa there are many schools out there that forget the other aspects of fighting.
Been like that since I started in martial arts. I am sure it will be like that after I die.[/QUOTE]
and thats because the overwhelming majority of people do not wish to fight or train hard they just want to dabble abit for an hour here and there in their free time
alot of older masters commented on how when they came to north america they taught in a real brutal realistic fashion but everyone quit right away because the training was too hard for them so they had to water it down for people or they would go out of buisness
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alot of older masters commented on how when they came to north america they taught in a real brutal realistic fashion but everyone quit right away because the training was too hard for them so they had to water it down for people or they would go out of buisness[/QUOTE]
if you dont teach for monies then you wouldnt have this problem. next gerneation of kung fu people young people, we need to stop teaching for money
in china if someone trains for 10 years their fist big is like a big pot. here people train for 30 years they are still flabby like a hippo or seal and many other sea animals. some time its body type i can understand, but i think many are lazy
if everybody stopped thinking about g ay forms and start practiceing basics we wouldnt be having this conversation on the internet
i have many many times kung fu people disrespect me because i dont know forms. u can eaily learn form on youtube or dvd.
oh i dont believe all the time its for money its just as that saying goes “you think its hard to find a good master try finding a good student”
[QUOTE=uki;963510]get a 12 gauge browning auto-5, semi-automatic shotgun. 000 buckshot packs 8 shot at 0.36 inches in diameter, 00 is a 9 at 0.33. it’s all about the quantity when you have the quality. i practice with 1oz slugs on bricks at 50 yards, open, with no glasses for near-sightedness… of course you cannot legally conceal it, but it will still feed your family regardless…[/QUOTE]
Was thinking of starting with a 12 gauge (I’ve shot skeet with my little bro) and a nice, reliable, pistol. Though my gangster friends down here keep telling me how bada$$ the Tech-9 is.
the homies always been fond of the tec-9, ive always been partial to a nice revolver as far as pistolas go. shotty i like mossberg 500/590 series (a military 10k round test survivor)
S&W 625
mossberg 590a1
[QUOTE=bawang;963519]i agree with ray that many kung fu arent good.[/QUOTE]
I agree too, but most people don’t have to be good. Yeah a lot of people think they are tough when they aren’t, but that is just a guy thing along with posturing and boasting. It is part testosterone and part insecurity. If someone wants to posture and boast, that is their thing, let 'em do it. It’s not the end of the world. I don’t care if someone trains to fight, or trains to dance, or trains because they think it is spiritual, or trains for the fitness, etc. We all have our own fantasies in life. My fantasy is no better or worse than yours or Ray’s or anyone elses.
When I worked in the prison psych ward I had an inmate that thought he was a ninja. He was in prison because his girl friend broke up with him so he hid in her attic dressed in his ninja garb. When she came home with her new boy friend, he dropped down through the ceiling and cut them up with a sword, LOL!! No one died, but he was trying to live his fantasy. His MA was crap, but he lived in his own fantasy. Not everyone goes to this extreme, but everyone has their own fantasy about life and their self-image. There is nothing good or bad about it, it just is.
Ray’s argument, as it is with most people, is he doesn’t like the fantasy that other people have about themselves and their MA, but it is more profitable for him to identify his own fantasies and just let other people have theirs.
By the way I like Ray…he is a good guy, but he is young and idealistic about his path. He just needs to allow other people their own fantasy, just as he wants to have his own.
By the, by the way, most people think that it is other people that live in a fantasy world, they don’t recognize their own and that in itself demonstrates they live in a fantasy world!
[QUOTE=goju;963520]and thats because the overwhelming majority of people do not wish to fight or train hard they just want to dabble abit for an hour here and there in their free time
alot of older masters commented on how when they came to north america they taught in a real brutal realistic fashion but everyone quit right away because the training was too hard for them so they had to water it down for people or they would go out of buisness[/QUOTE]
Yeah, most people don’t want to train hard enough to be really good. It hurts a lot and our society does not generally reward aggressive manly behavior anymore. It scares people. Consider the fear the generally society has about MMA fighting. It is too aggressive for “civilized” sensibilities! Tough strong men make the weak and insecure fear for their safety!
We can thank the hippies for that! We live in a pu$$y society. Pu$$y societies eventually get taken over by the manly ones, like the Taliban. If they had our technology and population, we would all be Muslim now!
[QUOTE=goju;963529]oh i dont believe all the time its for money its just as that saying goes “you think its hard to find a good master try finding a good student”:D[/QUOTE]
Yup! No one wants to train hard, and many of the ones that do, want to be like a movie martial artist. They don’t understand that REAL training is hard and painful and takes years!
Scott, you’re really smart.
And you don’t want to know the fantasies I have:p
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;963542]Scott, you’re really smart.
And you don’t want to know the fantasies I have:p[/QUOTE]
LOL!! Thank you for not sharing them! But feel free to post the pics like sanjuro does!
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;963543]LOL!! Thank you for not sharing them! [/QUOTE]otherwise you might have to start walking around with poop in yer pants… 
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;963538]
We can thank the hippies for that! We live in a pu$$y society. Pu$$y societies eventually get taken over by the manly ones, like the Taliban. If they had our technology and population, we would all be Muslim now!
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The Taliban is also a Pu$$y society. If they posed any kind of credible threat, they would have been eliminated.
…poppy field growing heroin dealers…:rolleyes:
Thanks
Does that seem like play? And that’s kick boxing. No dragging someone down and pinning them against the cage and just man handling them with fists, back fists, elbows, knees, forearms.
This guy is a good fighter, body shots work wonders in a fight, left handed strong hitters are dangerous, this fellow has been well trained.
[QUOTE=bawang;963519]i agree with ray that many kung fu arent good. im not good. western martial arts, everything white people do is superior to chinese peopel. you are right every thing you do is better. you have better martial arts you have better cars you have a penus so big. im just not interested in mma.
you walk your road i walk my road. we all sleep take a sh1t then die. just do what you want and stop worrying about other people. if they arent important to you why cares?[/QUOTE]
LOLOLOLOL that just made my morning.
[QUOTE=goju;963520]and thats because the overwhelming majority of people do not wish to fight or train hard they just want to dabble abit for an hour here and there in their free time
alot of older masters commented on how when they came to north america they taught in a real brutal realistic fashion but everyone quit right away because the training was too hard for them so they had to water it down for people or they would go out of buisness[/QUOTE]
face it, real Gung-Fu is boring and tedious and hard. Nobody practices lien-gung anymore. How many students would stay in a school that made them do mostly conditioning and hard trainng first, rather than instant gratification stuff?