cloud1, sorry i took a while.
to answer your question on what leg forward to take the arm out. that would be first depends on what hand he throws and if you want to cause the most damage( dim ma , dim yue).
also it depends on if you attack using the c/line theories opening or closing, and of course your follow up technique. usually the right hand inward smash with the right leg because you attack the left side of the body of your attacker.(more deadlier)
i hope this helps
peace
to cloud
1st of all,please,i am only a begginer,honestly please don’t build me up,as i can’t live up to those expectations(ask moq,he is the true great one on this forum,i wish he would accept me as his student)
your pulling my leg(“you have not experienced yet”).
your "ban-pu"true.
my "ban-pu"is i’ll follow your lead,and connection?
"oh one other thing"i would agree on th first one "naturally"i’ve tried to answer, this trick question.
meltdawn
2nd part well executed?we haven’t finished our little banter yet,as fat head ROSS got offended,i hope you didn’t get offended,but very offended?i think the score is 1-0 to you.
fancy picking on a begginner,like me.
come on cloud 1, tell me your secret?if you can’t
because of great kung-fu MASTERS like moq,then type in hak-ka if you can??ha ha i’ll try to work it out.
Riddles
Hi ya Sui Fuw,
Thanks for the reply. Once again you have gone over my head.
What makes you think that I am Hakka nyin?
on this thread there has been a mention on ‘‘gripping the floor’’ in your opinion is this a concious, sub-concious, both or none of the above decisions you make when you practice Ma bo?
Meltdawn,
Nice to see you don’t take things personally.
Could you tell me the main differences in Ma bo between Lung Ying and Pak Mei?
I wish people took your advice that a strong tree only comes from strong roots. This applies to all aspects in life?
Has your training taken you to ‘Sight beyond Sight’?
Pu fook, Pu Fook 
From Sui-Fuw:
“meltdawn
…we haven’t finished our little banter yet,as fat head ROSS got offended,i hope you didn’t get offended,but very offended?i think the score is 1-0 to you. fancy picking on a begginner,like me.”
Do I know you? I seem to recognise the poor grammar, lack of sentence structure and bastardised punctuation… but I distinctly thought this was a different thread.
From Cloud:
“Meltdawn,
Nice to see you don’t take things personally.”
I do, but I have this amazing ability to ignore stupidity.
“Could you tell me the main differences in Ma bo between Lung Ying and Pak Mei?”
Sorry, I can’t get into detail of comparison because I don’t practice bak mei. Kevin Barkman and Mantis108 would be excellent choices of whom to inquire.
“I wish people took your advice that a strong tree only comes from strong roots. This applies to all aspects in life?”
Don’t forget, the roots are strong and the tree is supple. It must be able to bend and snap back, like a willow in the wind. I do believe one can and should live their life like in practice. This is an excellent idea for a new thread!
“Has your training taken you to ‘Sight beyond Sight’?”
No, I’m just trying to be the Quizats Haderach (sp?).
Meltdawn
Royal Highness
Please excuse me you should have said we were in the company of Royalty 
I am too unworthy to reply to you.
farewell my lady but I am dune with you!!!
Stances
In response to your original question Cloud 1, the importance of stances can’t be exspressed enough.Without a firm foundation the hand techniques are useless , might as well be doing Wing Chun. With gripping the ground you are activating you Kidney 1 point .If stance work is a regular practised the hand work is greatly benefited . Good to see some real discussion happening.
Lin Q
You mentioned Wing Chun. Do you have any experience with this? The Wing Chun that I have seen also stress the importance of Ma Bo. Sil Lum Tao is practiced for two hours without taking a break. This is done for a year or so, then the second form;Chum Kieu, which trains Ma Bo also.
The third form Biu Ji can only be taught when you have an understanding of Ma Bo to be effective.
Wooden dummy forms also help with Ma Bo.
cloud
hi long time no chat.
i have a hunch you are hak-ka,probably married to a cantonese lady?i could be wrong.
gripping floor?i know what your asking,but does a human have claws?it can be immetated i suppose,but not well i must add.
ma-pu(ma-bo)sub-concious or concious?
you see this is the question i beleive?as for gripping is a technique.
care to answer the question above?also,how have you studied ban-pu,through lap-sao?what is this to you?
have you practiced wing-chun lately?
Ban Pu
Sui Fuw,
Well done, your hunches are quite correct.
I know nothing of Ban Pu. I haven’t practiced Wing Chun for ages. I am very lazy.
Ban pu is probably one of the hardest things to explain. There must be unlimited possibilities.
What have you experienced in Ban Pu? Can it be practiced solely?
I am only learning to stand at the moment.
What of your training? Have you learnt to retreat yet? Please don’t speak in riddles, it takes me ages to figure out. Thanks.
cloud 1
hi,you keep refering that i speak in riddles.i must apologise,as i’m not aware of this.
the answer to your questions are very simple,as i;ve said before,they are inside you,my experience’s of ban-pu are not valid to you.ask your si-fu,see if you can practise it solefully?
aren’t we all trying to stand?i just keep trying to stop falling also,if thats any consulation.
"learnt to retreat"i haven’t learnt a damn thing yet.
anyway i was hoping you could shed some light on the subject,please be free to speak,i won’t judge you honestly. i know less than you i’m sure.
knowledge
If you know less than me then you are a master, to me.
Do you teach for a living?
If you do then I bet you have made a good one at it.
What is it that you teach? I still haven’t figured that out yet.
Why all the secrets? What have you got to hide?
cloud1
i’m a master of what? wiping my bottom.
no.i’m not qualifide to teach.
my style? keep thinking.i have no doubt you will work it out.
why secrets?there are no secrets,no answers only questions that hold the universe.find the harmony that binds it together?
Please wash your hands
Could you please tell me Sui Fuw.
What is meant by ‘‘whilst defending have one foot on the floor, one foot off’’ ‘‘whilst attacking have both feet on the floor’’???
What is the connection between MaPu and Kung Fu?
i use toilet paper thanks
1st of all,can i feel the floor?before i can distiguish “1 foot on floor 1 foot off” ect.
the connection between “ma-pu and kung-fu” is obvious its “and” isn’t it?
tell me,your ma-pu,how do you defend with your right leg leading(from 2 mtre gap)eg would you “entry”,take right leg back,what would you do?
Flying
it sounds like you can fly Sui Fuw!!!
Well can you feel the floor?
Is it that obvious, if it is then what is it?
Why would I need to be defending?
to answer your question I would be defending in a neutral stance, left leg forward, right leg forward, sitting down, lying on my bed asleep, meditating, not meditating. Has that answered your question.
If you asked F.T or B.B the answer would be to attack first. Do you agree?
sui fuw- whats wrong with you lately, your talking sh!t. pardon my expression.
i cant beleive that you guys continue this crap, really. if you feel that the opponent is invading your space just attack. but dont be set up or faked out.
peace
we have alot of stance work in our training. for new students, on their first night my sifu makes them do 15min of horse stance.
in our gradings we are required to do horse stance for 45min at the end.
stances are very important. you need to be able to move with alot of speed. proper stances help to generate the power, rise/fall etc.
so yes stances are an important part of our training.
we practice 1-10’s up and down our gwoon in every stance possible including the use of hand techniques. our sifu follows us up & down (1 at a time) trying to get us to increase our speed and floating.
fubokuen is right, your toes must grip the ground.not at all times but yes they grip. that is how we train.
cloud1
yes,i yield.
o.k i retreat, got me fair and square.
your wisdom is far superior(i mean it)i would like to meet this cloud 1(but how many clouds are there?)
no i don’t agree of attacking first.
f.t our k.f is very different.i’m more of a pacifist.
i believe in"protect oneself,then maybe strike"now,but before i became mercifull,i struck first.
Sui Fuw
Thanks for your sarcasm. If I were wise I wouldn’t be on this Forum but doing something more constructive with my time.
I don’t understand what you mean How many?
What are you getting at? (5)
Are you talking from experience when you say you wouldn’t attack first?
If that is the case then you have come a long way in your Kung Fu.
mun-lin
i mean i agree in not attacking fist,not that i don’t attack first.i have not become the man i shall become.