"Many of the skills of this style are direct descendants of Chow Gar Tong Long and Yang Family Tai Chi. Both these styles have hundreds of years of history.
The praying mantis is the basis of the kung fu system but emphasis is also placed on the crane and snake techniques as used in the application of traditional Tai Chi. The animal techniques have been united to be simultaneous, spontaneous and adaptable to allow the appropriate technique to be employed as required. All methods have been developed in accordance with the ancient Taoist principles of Yin/Yang. The exponent of this style never directly blocks or attempts to control force through brute strength, instead the exponent uses every opportunity to harness the opponents’ energy.
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Nah, no application vidz.
It doesn’t look bad but doesn’t look like traditional southern mantis forms. Maybe I shouldn’t approach it as Southern Mantis but their own Snake Crane Mantis style.
The style’s lineage is via the Sue-Tin Brothers OZ Chow Gar Tong Long. Denis & Guy Sue Tin are relatives to Malcom (who now teaches his own system) and Henry Sue. It’s a fairly well known style in Oz at least for those more aware of Chinese Martial Arts in Australia, and those interested in Lam Tong Long.
Lin Waan Sarm Sao is another branched off style.
I think there is / was a few Hok Se Tong Long (Crane, Snake, Mantis) guys on here…
I think “Tao Boy” was on…
do a forum search … australian southern praying mantis, taoboy.. 5thBrother … hok se tong long etc…
ps. non of the forms are chow gar tong long forms. They are creation unique to hok se tong long. …
if you looking for a “pure” or “traditional” for lack of a better words Southern Praying Mantis system.. hok se tong would not be it. But it would be related and worth studying, as would say Bak Mei or Lung Ying, etc if that is all that is in your area…
mmm..dunno. It looks like they break alot of structural rules of SPM..elbow position, back, alignmnet. It’s one thing to apply the softness and yeilding and spiraling energies of Tai Chi or footwork of Bot Gua to SPM, which is similar to what Lam Sang’s Jook Lum has, but when you lose all your structure, then I think it’s superficial window dressing.
Hybrid systems try to take the “best”, the 'strengths" of mulitple systems and make one without any of the weakneses.
Problem is that while that may work with an INDIVDUAL how over many years effortlessly has combined what he has learned of multiple systems into one, it doesn’t work as well with a system per say.
If a system as a distinct structure and so does another one ( SPM and Tai Chi for example) one ends up compromising one systems “power generation” for another since they really don’t complement each other in the beginning.
Now, take one of the other after 5 years of training ( for example) and then add the other system gradulaly, giving the practioner further options at that point, then you have a different story.
(I’m not a/the representative of my sifu’s school, cos I’ve been talking Kung Fu instead of practising Kung Fu since I was crapplied by a Daito Ryu master at the try out class).
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if you looking for a “pure” or “traditional” for lack of a better words Southern Praying Mantis system.. hok se tong would not be it. But it would be related and worth studying, as would say Bak Mei or Lung Ying, etc if that is all that is in your area…
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I am interested in Bak Mei but they don’t look like Bak Mei to me.
of course… Hung Gar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Kjh5Beb6g
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great stuff indeed! I had the opportunity to train with Sifu Alan Lee and Si-Bok Leung would make frequent visits.(there’s a pic somewhere floating on the internet of him punching me I have trained in several Wing Chun schools and IME Applied Wing Chun is the best I’ve ever seen.
The Hung-Gar looks very good as well. Lam family if I’m not mistaken.
So, ok, that and beer. What else does one need? I’m sold!
… hok se tong long etc…
I have trained in several Wing Chun schools and IME Applied Wing Chun is the best I’ve ever seen.