So, are you saying most Kung Fu guys CAN’T fight on the ground?
And, yes, the same strikes are allowed on the ground as those that can be used standing.
As for why the rules were changed, the original rules were done when the athletic commission was threatening to shut them down because the event was deemed to be too brutal, as well as to help less experienced people get involved when this type of thing was relatively new. The level 1 and level 2 were only done when two grapplers wanted to do a grappling only match. The athletic commission has since softened its stance and I believe less inexperienced people still occasionally do a level 3 fight.
Abel:
Kage Kombat is held at the LA Entertainment Center (3rd & Boyleston) in Los Angeles. The next event is either in February or March. I don’t think there is a definite date set yet.
As far as kicking someone’s ass for free, the last time I posted back and forth with you, I thought you were quite keen on the idea.
As for pancrase rules, these are significantly different from a tiered system of rules. Especially one where the lowest level bans striking. You can’t sit there with a straight face and tell me that asking a striker to fight at “Level Zero” to “Level Two” is strictly for safety, the structure of the rules are to create a safe grappling environment.
I assume these are the rules you mean? Since the organization that runs these events are clearly more organized the one which runs Kage Kombat, I’d still like to see the Kage Kombat rules. In events like this, “Close enough” is not. Knowledge is power.
"So, are you saying most Kung Fu guys CAN’T fight on the ground? "
No. I don’t believe in making generalizations about what people can and can’t do.
"And, yes, the same strikes are allowed on the ground as those that can be used standing. "
My mistake, but then I still don’t have the rules.
And finally, the general level of fights is what? The statement that there are still level 3 fights taking place shows that Jaguar Wong’s assumption that all fights are at Level 4 rules is incorrect, so again…
Where are the rules?
I mean, come on. You want to fight Abel, and you can’t even send him the phone number to call? I have to do it? That’s pitiful. This is worse than the figurative pulling teeth.
Shin:
Once again, the rules are as stated in level 4 on the previous page. Most fights are done at this level. I do all my fights at this level. Occasionally, newbies fight at level 3, although it is pretty rare.
Actually I think our rules are less restrictive than the Pancrase in Japan that your link showed. Elbows to the body are allowed. Heel hooks are allowed. Kicks with the toes are allowed. Shin protectors are not used. Opponents can be struck from behind.
Abel:
So, let’s set it up. I’ve fought guys up to 240 before.