Hi guys
Im doing body conditioning training and Im wanting to get some opinions of shin conditioning. Ive been lightly kicking trees and rolling my shins with a wooden baton. if theres bruising i use yunnan baiyao on it.
Ive read and heard different points of view on this. Some people say its safe, some say its unsafe, Im thinking if I just do it once a week, its probably ok.
A Die Da Jiu will likely serve you better than Yunnan Bai Yao - apply before and after. Kick condition once a week, roll condition the rest of the week.
[QUOTE=xiao yao;1101915]lightly kicking trees and rolling my shins with a wooden baton.[/QUOTE]
Find a small tree with smooth surface and press your shin bone against it will give you good result plus some other benefit. If small tree is not available, put a PVC pipe on the ground will work too.
If you have training partner, you can ask him to give you below the knee low roundhouse kick. You then turn you shin bone into the kick.
Most Thai guys just kick the bag, the denser, bottom part.
Of course they do LOTS of kicking, LOL !
If you want to kick a tree or post, make sure it is lightly padded and has give.
I know some kenpo guys that take a package of wooden chop sticks, break them up and put them in a bundle. They come in packs of 2, so you take one and turn it around so they fit together, hold the bundle together using rubberbands and roll them up and down your shins.
The rolling thing just desensitizes it.
You want to “IP” your shins, build the density BUT keep the sensitivity.
Mine USED to be conditioned from all the bag kicks.
Found out the other night that this no longer applies. 
Ouch.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1102017]BUT keep the sensitivity.[/QUOTE]
It’s pretty hard to keep the shin bone sensitive after a while. Sometime you won’t even feel that your leg is breeding from cutting.
Birth control, John. Birth control.
[QUOTE=JamesC;1102019]Mine USED to be conditioned from all the bag kicks.
Found out the other night that this no longer applies. Ouch.[/QUOTE]
Don’t confuse sensitivity with lack of conditioning.
If I ever lost some time, like a month for example, it stings when I get back to kicking that bag, but after a round or so, the sting is gone and I hit just as hard as ever.
Then, after a few sessions, the “sting” is gone again.
That’s encouraging.
I’ll have to kick the bag for a few more days and see if it improves
[QUOTE=JamesC;1102027]That’s encouraging.
I’ll have to kick the bag for a few more days and see if it improves[/QUOTE]
You’ll see.
Unless you do WC or some internal crap, then you’ll be weak and pussified for life.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1102013]Most Thai guys just kick the bag, the denser, bottom part.
Of course they do LOTS of kicking, LOL !
If you want to kick a tree or post, make sure it is lightly padded and has give.[/QUOTE]
Hey now, I thought you were a Kyokushin guy with manly shins who didn’t believe in those “Thai Shin Guards”:eek: Pick a side, man!
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1102037]Hey now, I thought you were a Kyokushin guy with manly shins who didn’t believe in those “Thai Shin Guards”:eek: Pick a side, man!:p[/QUOTE]
LMAO !!
Indeed.
But even kyokushin guys kick a makiwara, which is PADDED !
Hey, here’s one for you:
start with light tapping just like any other iron body training
I have heard of different methods of doing it. I have yet to try this because I don’t have the space but someone said to me years ago a Wing Chun Sifu was using a bag filled with sand. I think the way he was doing it was he used an old heavy bag or something. Im no expert on the subject but I think kicking a larger surface area would be better. I would like to set up a bag but have no space for one right now. I have seen many roll a bar or wood from a broom or something up and down the shin using light taps.
[QUOTE=bawang;1102054]start with light tapping just like any other iron body training[/QUOTE]
holy crap!!! Bawang gave some good advice! :eek:
no, really he did.
one time i hit too hard in iron shirt training and i shat blood for 2 weeks
I spent 1.5 years at a Muay Thai camp in Thailand. We kicked the heavy bag, over and over, and got a decent level of shin conditioning just from that. For those who wanted more, we had a stack of car tires with a concrete post in the middle. We’d kick (and punch, knee, elbow) the tires, 25 times each leg per day. Started out with little power but after a couple months I could kick those tires with my shin at about 80% power with no pain at all. The conditioning I got out of all this was definitely sufficient for fighting in the ring. And this was without a loss of sensitivity to light touch on the skin. My theory was that with increased bone density, my body knew that the heavier impacts were no longer potentially dangerous. Therefore, there was no need to trigger the pain (i.e. danger) feedback loop.
I have a stack of tires at my house now, but don’t get around to kicking them much. Mostly they just remind me of what a badass I used to be!
[QUOTE=monkey mind;1102157] My theory was that with increased bone density, my body knew that the heavier impacts were no longer potentially dangerous. Therefore, there was no need to trigger the pain (i.e. danger) feedback loop.
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…actually, you have killed some nerve endings and that’s why they’re not firing anymore.
neuropathy is common in repetitive strikes with a given surface. You don’t kill em all, but you have likely damaged a lot of them. You have also increased the density of the bone through the vibrations and you have thickened the skin somewhat.