qi gong… why?
i’m wondering why all the excercises of breaking things,or the things with the spear,or the bowl…why they call this qi gong,extreme qi gong?
You call in the spirits like san da in extreme qi gong. quite dangerous if you can’t get them to leave.
those are parlour tricks. only a small amount of adeptness is required. but to the uneducated eye they are impressive and drive people into schools or to make donations for getting to see the tricks.
I’ve seen the shaolins break metal slabs with their heads. easy for you to say its a parlor trick.
there’s a difference between iron, steel and the slag that runs off in the making of them.
The metal used in teh head breaking tricks is slag, it is brittle, it will break across your knee or head or pretty much anywhere with no damage incurred.
again, a parlour trick.
Real qigong has nothing to do with that sort of nonsense, but to open the door for the unenlightened, a little theatre is a viable way of doing so.
qi qong or not..i stil give them props for having the balls to break something or having spears pointed at their throats
im pretty sure it is a simple trick(after many pratice)…but they do still need to practice it
cant just take any original man out..and tell them to stick 2-3 spears on the throat…and lean on it..and put a big concrete brick on their back and smash it open with a sledge hammer and expect the guy to be perfectly fine..even if you did tell him all the physics and tricks to it…
Well its a good trick to have if you can be stabbed in the throat by spears and not get hurt. You can also stop cuts from swords and if you train hard enough you can stop a bullet
tricks vs. genuine
If you have a good eye, you can tell the tricks from the non-tricks. Surely there are many tricks. But there are also many genuine hard qigong demonstrations. I don’t think you can just dismiss the whole field because the bulk of it is trickery. Using that same argument, you might as well dismiss the bulk of kung fu. The real trick is konwing enough about basic physics to be able to determine what is really hard and what is really easy. Even better, if you try some of these stunts (under the watchful eye of qualified master) you’ll know exactly how hard or easy some of them are.
Note: I’ve seen a few qigong ‘tricks’ go wrong too - live on stage, no less. As with anything in the martial arts, you can only speak poorly of it if you’ve done it. Denigrating it from an armchair perspective is demonstrates low wude.
I agree. I have seen hard qigong feats that are quite impressive.
They involved taking tremendous strikes with hard objects.
I don’t dismiss hard qigongs it all, just the obvious stuff and the known tricks.
Most will not see or get to see the real deal in a stage show, although, now and then someone opens the box’o’goodness.
All kung fu is qi gong. Hard qi gong is fighting, application or rigerous drilling of fighting skills. Soft qi gong is restorative and promotes a healthy body and mind. You can have one without the other, but you shouldn’t. Yin/Yang baby.
i want to explain why i made this question…
i saw so many times in t.v,ths kind of demostrations,and i’m proud to say that i believed everyone,but then i come to china,and one day sitting on the temple,having lunch,one of the chinese take his bowl,put it in his stomach and,tarararan!!! the bowl was stuck in his stomach,and this was the beggining of the end,i stand up fast and i ask:how?,he laught,and after 3 attempts the bowl was stuck in MY stomach,the next day,i was so courious about chi kung,that i ask about the spear thing.he do it in front on me,easily,and after he tell me,try,so i put the spear on my troat,and i start to push carefully,my first think was,“this is imposible”,so i ask him if there is any kind of trick,and he answer,train a little bit every day…
2 weeks later,i bend my first spear,and i don’t remember any blue lights pointing me,with no ambience music,and i wasn’t in ma bu with my hands trembling,taking the chi of the dan tien and bringing to my troat.
metal bar----- succes1 day(painful,but was my first attempt)
needle and cristal---- succes 1 day (the needle was quite big,and the crisstal quit thin,and very well suported)
also i tried to brake the briks,and i think is quite easy with techniqe an speed.
sorry for the boring story,but what i want to say is WHY?.
i mean,there is a mix between,trick,techniqe,practice,no fear.but defintly no chi gong.
is shaolin kung fu becoming a “circus”?
i came here because i want to be a teacher,but i’m sure i will never teach this kind of things…
if somebody want i can take some videos of me donig this,but you need to explain me how to post it in the net.
You’re probably born with good chi. One in a million individuals will train to become great masters. too bad you underestimate your gift.
is shaolin kung fu becoming a “circus”?
Study your history. Shaolin kung fu has always been a circus - a zen circus. You just got to figure out if you’re a juggler, a lion tamer, an MC, a trapeze artist or a clown. [SIZE=1]I’m guessing most of us are clowns.[/SIZE]
a clown can be a very useful thing to be. afterall, it is difficult to attack when you are laughing. 
Isn’t a shaolin worth 10,000 soldiers?
10,000 soldiers?
How much is that in clowns?
42,
42, answer
100s, 1000s or whatever you get the picture.
Hello all,
I’m new here and quite new in Shaolin Kungfu.
I like Kungfu very much so I went to China and at the moment I stay in Deng Feng training in a small school but there’s no Qi Gong, I don’t know why, no Chin Na and the sanda is very different. But the training is very hard and a lot of hours per day, I hope I can do it for 2 months.
@Yen23
I saw you train in Deng Feng too, maybe we can meet one time. I would like to ask you some questions about that Qi Gong because there’s a lot I don’t understand. Is it real or not ?? I saw the Shaolin Monks in a Show in Europe with their incredible skills. You seem to have good skills also, you learned very fast Qi Gong, maybe you can help me !!
@all
Why Shaolin is a circus ??
Is not Shaolin the birthplace of a martial arts ??
Thanx for information !!
Thomas