[QUOTE=Sal Canzonieri;937188]Hmm, Shi de qian before he died gave me a copy of it in a book of his.
What book are you referring to? Do you have an ISBN number?
thanks![/QUOTE]
ISBN7-5054-0640-X
published in '99, the demonstrator is diao shanduo (shi yongzhi).
you can get the pdf file here: http://www.qupan.com/down/sbl5158_1425860.html
click the button with the green arrow for a normal download. only takes a minute.
It didnt work …
uh, i just did it again. worked for me.
[QUOTE=LFJ;938037]uh, i just did it again. worked for me.[/QUOTE] I downloaded it but will not open,What are you opening it with?
its a .pdf, so i just opened it with abode. works fine.
It keeps saying broken or fragmented link :(
I downloaded the .pdf file and will email it to anyone that asks.
Edit: Ok, here’s what I did for you guys. I dropped it to a server I manage so you can download it at http://www.1cns.net/Yuan-Huo-Quan.pdf.
Or I will email if you send me your email address.
The program to read the file is Adobe’s Acrobat Reader and can be downloaded here. Each version gets bigger and bigger so you might want to try an alternate reader.
This program here will also open the file for reading.
Someone referred to Taiji when speaking of this set. Is it played like a TJ form, slowly?
I don’t read Chinese so any info on how to play the set would help me to understand and learn it from the file.
If it’s jumping around like a monkey I’m not interested (and too old and out of shape) but if it’s fighting moves I’ll make the effort to learn.
More than half of the file is warm up moves then it shows the 26 postures. Some of it looks a little familiar.
Sal, where are you in Jersey. Haven’t been back there in years but I’m about due for a family visit soon.
[QUOTE=Yao Sing;938248]I downloaded the .pdf file and will email it to anyone that asks.
Edit: Ok, here’s what I did for you guys. I dropped it to a server I manage so you can download it at http://www.1cns.net/Yuan-Huo-Quan.pdf.
Or I will email if you send me your email address.[/QUOTE]
I see it, no it is not that one. That’s the Shaolin Monkey Boxing set.
Not the same at all.
But, thanks anyways!
[QUOTE=Yao Sing;938250]If it’s jumping around like a monkey I’m not interested (and too old and out of shape) but if it’s fighting moves I’ll make the effort to learn.
More than half of the file is warm up moves then it shows the 26 postures. Some of it looks a little familiar.
Sal, where are you in Jersey. Haven’t been back there in years but I’m about due for a family visit soon.[/QUOTE]
I am in the Morristown area, Morris County.
Starting in the late summer, early fall I will be teaching for the town where I live at one of the recreation centers.
My family is in Ocean County on the coast. Maybe I should plan an end of summer trip. I’ll let you you if I head up that way.
Hey Yao,
Your PM box is full…wouldn’t let me send anything.
BQ
Fixed it.
Hey Sal, you do research so I was wondering your take on the Karate jow question in the SD thread. Don’t know if you followed it but it’s my understanding that the Chinese withheld knowledge of jow from the Japanese so traditionally they don’t use any for their hand conditioning.
Do you have anything concerning this issue?
[QUOTE=Yao Sing;938755]Fixed it.
Hey Sal, you do research so I was wondering your take on the Karate jow question in the SD thread. Don’t know if you followed it but it’s my understanding that the Chinese withheld knowledge of jow from the Japanese so traditionally they don’t use any for their hand conditioning.
Do you have anything concerning this issue?[/QUOTE]
Hmm, interesting, but I never pursued any research in that direction.
I’ve always researched the transmission of teaching material from one style to another.
One thing to look into is the availability of the herbs necessary to make jow.
Maybe in Japan there is not the same access to certain herbs to make the jow preparation.
Also, during the 1500s, there are records showing that the Japanese were studying at Shaolin and preserved many traditional things from there that are no longer done there now (this is covered in Shahar’s The Shaolin Monastery book).
The medicinal aspect was part of the Shaolin tradition of that time period.
Perhaps it did go to Japan, but it was there that it eventually was lost over time.
This would be the Shorinjikempo line, they would be where you would look.
The Karate line is from Okinawa and that ultimately comes from the southern chinese traditions of 5 Ancestors style.
One would have to compare the Southern 5 Ancestor’s style and their use of herbal jow preparations or not and compare / contrast to Okinawan traditions and Japanese Karate and Shorinjikempo traditions.
Thanks for the info. It gives me a direction to look.
here’s a video with a very short clip of a combative monkey boxing set, starting at 0:54.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0RvVBB4rg&feature=channel_page
[QUOTE=LFJ;955986]here’s a video with a very short clip of a combative monkey boxing set, starting at 0:54.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0RvVBB4rg&feature=channel_page[/QUOTE]
Cool, liked that.
But still not the Shaolin Ape-monkey set I am looking for a video of.
have you seen this yuanhougun set? its pretty neat.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQ0OTg1ODg=.html
[QUOTE=LFJ;955995]have you seen this yuanhougun set? its pretty neat.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQ0OTg1ODg=.html[/QUOTE]
Yep, saw it, thanks.
Shaanxi area is famous for their Monkey Staff and Stick sets.