[QUOTE=shaolin_allan;821288]leopard fist seems like possibly the least covered of the animals. Is it possibly not a good system?[/QUOTE]
The Leopard fist is included in almost every system I have seen, even in the Japanese ones (Hiraken).
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yes you’re right sanjuro. there is even a clf set called golden leopard. what i meant was that in 5 animals, all other 4 animals have complete systems and it seems like leopard may be only a few forms, I was just wondering if anyone knew why this is?
If I recall my five animal studies correctly (I am long out of practice) each animal offers something unique physically. To emphasize one over another shouldn’t be so much out of choice, but more from what your personal character expresses. I always liked dragon and crane movements for their fluidity (when I was younger) - I especially liked leopard for its speed.
But if I were to start training some serious Fu now, with all my physical limitations, I’d probably be focused more on snake and tiger.
Peace,
Bob
Southern Tiger,
Make Sure You Leave A Return Address, In Case Of “return To Sender” Happens.
I’d Like To Send You A Specially Wrapped Fu Jow My Darn Self. :d
AND YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE 5 CLAWED BEAVERS…
[QUOTE=shaolin_allan;821687]yes you’re right sanjuro. there is even a clf set called golden leopard. what i meant was that in 5 animals, all other 4 animals have complete systems and it seems like leopard may be only a few forms, I was just wondering if anyone knew why this is?[/QUOTE]Actually SD claims to have the entire golden leopard system. I have only seen pieces of it though. I do not know as to whether it is the same as the CLF variety.
The CLF form on YouTube labeled “Golden Leapord” is actually a bit incorrect. The form is Ping Jahng Kuen (level elbow form) however some lineages call it Gum Pow Ping Janhg Kuen or Golden Leapord Level Elbow form; however it is not an animal set persay but it does have the trademark CLF panther fist, but then just about every other CLF set has the panther fist.
[QUOTE=CLFNole;821810]The CLF form on YouTube labeled “Golden Leapord” is actually a bit incorrect. The form is Ping Jahng Kuen (level elbow form) however some lineages call it Gum Pow Ping Janhg Kuen or Golden Leapord Level Elbow form; however it is not an animal set persay but it does have the trademark CLF panther fist, but then just about every other CLF set has the panther fist.[/QUOTE]I am learning this set right now from a friend and he said the same thing about it being a leopard form . I know that CLF , at least in GMDFW’s CLF, there is a Goldern Leopard form and a Tiger vs. Golden Leopard form a part from this one.( level elbow)
There is a Panther vs. Tiger form in CLF, not sure if the “golden” is used in all lineages. Typically it would be Pow Ying Chak Fu Ying (Panther vs. Tiger). I have never heard of a gum pow ying kuen set only pow ying kuen as it is one of the 10 animal sets in CLF. If you look at DFW list of forms “gum pow” or “golden panther” is only used in the 2-man set.
There is a YouTube clip out there that say Golden Leopard/Panther, which is the Level Elbow set. Reason I know is they are from my lineage.
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this is all very interesting. what i want to know is, panther is supposedly the northern version of leopard yet it seems like its a big part of clf which is southern. why is panther used then?
No the chinese “pow” just translates to either panther/leopard. Some people say panther fist some say leopard fist. It is the same thing.
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thanks for that info nole. I think im either gonna focus on snake or tiger at first, either of those seem the best of the 5 animals for combat.
Actually When You Think About It…
Panther Is Probably A Great Thing To Focus On. Its Fast, Fluid, Effective, And Can Be Done In Many Different Ways.
Tiger Claw, If You Don’t Don’t Mind The Possibility Of Being Prosecuted For Maiming Someone Then Cool. Snake Is Great For Its Speed Too, Coiling, And Such…
But Its Always Up To The Person Training…
One Thing I Will Try To Pass On…is Always Be A Student…even If You Are A Master…remain A Student For Life.
In CLF snake would be considered more of an internal/soft animal whereas obviously tiger would be more external/hard. So they would be completely different in terms of power and technique.
Frank, we are all always students and can never stop learning (and you know I don’t mean sets).
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yep i agree they are extreme differences. I was thinking this because fu jow pai has already been proven effective for combat but you do have to be very careful how you use it. Snake could possibly allow much more restraint in self defense, it also uses trapping and sticking hands I believe, which may be where wing chun got it from. I think I need to decide which animal fits me physically best and my personal fighting style over just which I would choose because it seems the coolest.
Hello all!
Nice one hskwarrior! LOL 
Sounds like a FOX special: “When 5-clawed Beavers Attack part 13”
Also, to anyone who cares: a panther is actually just a black jaguar. It is not a seperate species.
-Blake
Maybe You Shouldn’t Be Looking For A Specific Animal Style…but Find One That Has The Essence You Are Looking For.
See, I Too Love The Fu Jow…in Every Way.
Its Not Just About The Technique But The Spirit And Essence Behind It.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;821191]Is The Beaver one of the animals?
Cause if it is…
:D[/QUOTE]
Your posts are half the reason that I read this forum!
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thats true hsk it is more important to be able to feel the essence and love the art you are doing. not because you like the animal style but because it fits you in many ways. unless you have that your training is hollow im sure. What do you guys think of dragon? its not a personal fav of the 5 animals but it seems very good and well rounded. Also I do see a few dragon style schools which are holding up throughout the u.s.
Dragon style itself is quite different than how it is seen in 5-animals forms of say CLF, hung gar or hung fut. Dragon style is a short hand style along similar (not the same) lines as bak mei, yau gung mun, hakka tong long, etc… very different concepts and power generation.
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that sounds very cool, i wonder how it is represented in the 5 animals system and how power is generated for dragon?