Out of interest Sevenstar, if your students are generally training all women, how do they do when sparring against men in the open sessions ?
I’ve found that a lot of women can do very well in light contact sparring because a lot of them are very well coordinated, fast and flexible.
So you can’t really gauge how well a woman would do in a real combat situation with how they do in sparring.
Where women tend to fall off in fighting is where they actually get hit. For some reason getting hit seems to affect women much more than men. I have no idea why. Some scientists speculate that women feel pain more acutely than men do.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703764]I’ve found that a lot of women can do very well in light contact sparring because a lot of them are very well coordinated, fast and flexible.
So you can’t really gauge how well a woman would do in a real combat situation with how they do in sparring.
Where women tend to fall off in fighting is where they actually get hit. For some reason getting hit seems to affect women much more than men. I have no idea why. Some scientists speculate that women feel pain more acutely than men do.[/QUOTE]
actually, science more often tahn not finds that a woman’s pain threshold is much higher than a mans. which would make sense, seeing as they are the ones having babies. that kind of pain, I don’t want to kniow.
nobody digs getting hit, some people can eat it more tahn others, men and women included.
but, take a sledgehammer to a grape and you will get the same results everytime.
take it to a rock and it will change a bit.
conditioning is the thing. If you do not condition, then you will not be able to endure period. If your training has no focus on conditioning, then pretty much everything else is just window dressing.
the most useful part of a bowl is it’s emptiness.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;703766]actually, science more often tahn not finds that a woman’s pain threshold is much higher than a mans. which would make sense, seeing as they are the ones having babies. that kind of pain, I don’t want to kniow.
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Lately they’ve been saying women feel it more acutely.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4641567.stm
I mean, you can see it when you’re sparring women. You could even see it on Final Fu. It’s like guy takes kick into his side. Not a big deal, he brushes it off.
Woman takes same force kick to her side. Ouch … gasp … time out. It seems to affect her much worse.
So does it really affect her worse? Or is it a societally conditioned response, like the kid who screams after falling down for attention?
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703757]Okay, I’m totally confused, then. You said this is your club, that is your student, but there are NO men listed as instructors. So what are you, asexual?[/QUOTE]
It’s called marketing. He markets to women, so he lists women on his website. His wife is technically the school owner, if I remember correctly. But it’s his show.
All you have to do is show up and ask for the ginormous brother that runs the school. They will know what you mean.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;703776]It’s called marketing. He markets to women, so he lists women on his website. His wife is technically the school owner, if I remember correctly. But it’s his show.
All you have to do is show up and ask for the ginormous brother that runs the school. They will know what you mean.[/QUOTE]
Okay, now I know you’re pulling my leg. Well, thanks for the joke. Hahahahaha
As if there was any place to train Muay Thai in Seattle. The closest place is down in Tacoma.
Far more likely he’s in Tennessee.
Okay, I’m totally confused, then. You said this is your club, that is your student, but there are NO men listed as instructors. So what are you, asexual?
ROFLMFAO:D !!!
TWS.
[QUOTE=Su Lin;703758]Out of interest Sevenstar, if your students are generally training all women, how do they do when sparring against men in the open sessions ?[/QUOTE]
that’s not my school. I chimed in because the school and I share the name. RD and MK picked up on it and joined in. We oughtta win troll of the year for the KFM Awards this year.
However, I do train or assist in training several females. Right now, all of them are new except for two, so they are the only two that spar. They do fine against males. one of them has a fight coming up soon.
Too bad there isn’t a troll of the year award.
sure there is. It’s a category every year in the KFM awards. I don’t think you’ve ever been around for one of those, so this year will be your first.
I thought we voted for that every New Year’s eve?
LOL! We must have posted at the same time!!
KFM awards
Someone declared me the winner of the most pointless thread award 2006.
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42837
[QUOTE=SevenStar;703852]that’s not my school. I chimed in because the school and I share the name. RD and MK picked up on it and joined in. We oughtta win troll of the year for the KFM Awards this year.
However, I do train or assist in training several females. Right now, all of them are new except for two, so they are the only two that spar. They do fine against males. one of them has a fight coming up soon.[/QUOTE]
:o :o :o :o I’ll be leaving now…
[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;702595]I am thinking of E-mailing them, and letting them see this thread to see what it is they have to say for themselves.[/QUOTE]
Do it. Post the email and their reply 
If you already did this, sorry for replying late. I just saw your post and thought it would be funny, but I haven’t read the whole thread yet.
Oh, and I thought college was tough with their whole application process, first time I ever saw an MA school you had to audition for, these gals training for the Olympics?
Something besides speculation
Hello. My name is Chris Moses, I’m a martial artist in the Seattle area. I happened upon this thread the other day and felt that I should make a few informed comments. I’m neither a student of Sevenstar or kajukenbo, but I hold several dan (blackbelt) ranks in Aikido and Japanese swordsmanship, and have been doing this stuff for a fair while. I trained (in Aikido) as a fellow student with the chief instructor of Sevenstar for about six years (in addition to her kajukenbo ranks, she holds sandan in aikido and shodan in jujutsu) and my wife is currently a student there. Michelle is a very competent martial artist and one of the best teachers I have ever dealt with. She was honored as “Martial Artist of the Year” in 2003 by PAWMA. Her ability to be both challenging and supportive of her students is inspiring, and the dedication that she has demonstrated to the martial arts is worthy of respect rather than the derision I see here. Sevenstar was founded almost 25 years ago and the name was chosen by the previous Sifu, Anne Moon. I don’t know all of the history behind the choice of names, but “Kung Fu” is a reflection of the very real Chinese influences to their particular line of kajukenbo. Kajukenbo is a modern and eclectic style that emphasizes practicality, they make no claims to be other than what they are. There are other kajukenbo schools in Seattle that have co-ed classes and it would be a mistake to think that the students of Sevenstar never train with men. At nearly all of their tests, male kajukenbo practitioners are present, and they run one of the few open sparring environments in town. The curriculum is clearly divided into forms and movements that have a decided karate feel vs. a much more kung fu flavor. They make no exorbitant claims about who they are and where they come from. Students are taught from day one where and how their art was formed. I don’t really think that it speaks well of this forum, that you were all so hasty to judge an entire art based on a fairly junior student’s audition for a television show (for which she was accepted). Do you honestly think that adequately reflects the breadth and scope of their art? The last blackbelt test that I attended there went on for five hours, and that was for one person. My wife’s first belt test was over two hours long and testers were expected to not only demonstrate the various flavors of martial movement that make up their system but to discuss the history of the art and their particular school. Thank you very much for your time, hope this clears up some of the many misconceptions going on in this thread.
Where does there Kung Fu come from? what styles, and lineages?
[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;706992]Where does there Kung Fu come from? what styles, and lineages?[/QUOTE]
Gosh, can’t imagine where we could ever find that out…
http://www.kajukenbo.org/history/
And to clarify, if kajukenbo was synthesized today, it would probably just be called “Self Defense” or MMA, that’s what it is. At the time that it was founded, everything was either ‘karate’ ‘judo’ or ‘kung-fu’. Kung-fu is by far the most general of the terms, so it’s completely reasonable for them to have adopted that aspect of their history as a simple way to present themselves. Remember that until pretty recently, if you wanted to look up a martial arts dojo in the yellow pages they were all listed under “karate” or “Kung-fu” irregardless of what they actually were.
There’s plenty of wackos and charlatans out there taking people’s money based on false and misleading claims, these people aren’t them.
What was the TV show? Was it just local? She wasn’t trying out for Final Fu was she?