[QUOTE=SevenStar;703616]local smokers. there are plenty.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Donkwoon;703618]What does that mean? Just wondering.[/QUOTE]
That means they kick butt at pot parties.
I can vouch for Seven Star, that really is his club. I started this thread to give him some affectionate greif.
If Seven Star is a he then that can’t be his club, by definition.
This is interesting, though. I hadn’t seen this before:
http://www.7starwomenskungfu.org/
“Open sparring: Third Sunday of each month, 10:30 a.m. to noon (open to all styles and genders)”
So I guess they do spar against guys.
Maybe I should go … get beat up by a bunch of feminists. LOL
http://www.7starwomenskungfu.org/photos_pride05.htm
Hey, looks like this is where they get their Shaolin forms:
Name: Michele Miller
Rank: 3rd degree black belt in Kajukenbo
Michele Miller is a third degree black belt under Sifu Michelle McVadon. She has been training for 13 years at Seven Star Women’s Kung Fu. A movement instructor for over 20 years, Michele has taught kung fu at Seven Star, Velocity Dance Center, and Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle; Bates Dance Festival in Maine; and recently at PAWMA Camp in 2005. In addition to Kajukenbo, Michele studies Sil Lum Kung Fu and Koo Style Tai Chi under Sifu Cheung Yui Shing in Hong Kong, adding the traditional Chinese weapons of Spear, Saber, Chinese Sword, and Fan to her empty-hand training. Training in these weapons is offered at Seven Star to current students in addition to the regular Kajukenbo curriculum. Michele also teaches modern dance and Pilates.
I’ve seen some pretty bad lazyness, materialism and dissinterest get in the way of folks who otherwise might have been good students. At least these women are doing something and that’s better then nothing.
[QUOTE=Donkwoon;703662]I’ve seen some pretty bad lazyness, materialism and dissinterest get in the way of folks who otherwise might have been good students. At least these women are doing something and that’s better then nothing.[/QUOTE]
They’ve gotta be better than that girl in the video …
I haven’t sparred with women in a long time, though.
Where am I supposed to hit them? If I can’t hit the back, the neck, the head, the face … and probably the chest, then what does that leave?
Arms, legs and stomach? Butt? Shoulders?
I guess I could go and just be their target practice. You gotta figure women who study at a feminist school probably have a lot of anti-male issues. LOL
What is “Koo” style Tai Chi?
[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;703668]What is “Koo” style Tai Chi?[/QUOTE]
That’s like in 1st grade where they touch you and give you koo-ties, and then you touch them and give them koo-ties.
I have no idea …
donkwoon has the correct.
it surely does beat a quilting bee nd becoming a fattie instead of doing something fun like this.
actually, people can be a bit too quick to rag on folks like this for whatever reaons. Either it’s because they are not beating on each other and playing ufc in their club, or in this case because they are lesbians or feminists.
unfortunate that so clled “kungfu” people, or martial minds tend to drift in this petty finger pointing and whining that is all too apparent in martial arts.
even in those places where “no ego” is claimed, there seems to be a lot.
I think, Im gonna continue my practice and pay less attention to what others have to say about it. especially when they are not putting themselves up as the comparison point.
cheapshots are unbecoming of a martial artist.
I think these girls are doing something good for themselves and that’s more important than cage matches and minutia of tai chi. I mean, who really cares about all this ritual dance we do anyway and why is your ritual dance any better than there? Is it because sometimes another ritual dancer hits you in the face that makes it more valid?
which brings me to another point, all this talk about self defense, street fighting, realism etc etc. That’s all bullshit really on a lot of levels.
no training will protect you from the bitter reality of your own death. no training will stop a bullet from cutting through you and totally destroying however many years of training you have, no amount of boxing or wrestling will weigh up against much more thanb someone else who wants to ritually dance with you.
or sure, you might have gotten out of a scrape or two and decided to attribute your escape to your ritual dance functionality…but really, in the real reality, you got out because you had the will to do so.
we tie so much baggae to martial arts we actually can’t see the arts because it’s covered in the luggage of our own illsuions set upon it.
Im going to continue my practice for the reason that I enjoy it, it lets off a little steam and keeps me reasonably fit and healthy. Im not a 20 something dude with something to prove by entering tournamnet fighting. that’s way behind me. Im not even interested in old war stories or legends or any of that anymore.
Im going to continue to do this thing for me because i enjoy it and Im goin to be very concious of bagging on others.
anyway, that’s my rant. go seven star girls, you get out there an kick some air like everyone else is enjoying!! 
no training will protect you from the bitter reality of your own death. no training will stop a bullet from cutting through you and totally destroying however many years of training you have, no amount of boxing or wrestling will weigh up against much more than someone else who wants to ritually dance with you. – David Jamieson
I agree with the sentiment of your entire post. It’s so easy to cast aspersions at others, but it only distracts us from our own training and development. Any feelings of invincibility we pick up along the way are pure illusion, which makes the brief ego boost of looking down on others that much more dangerous.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703664]They’ve gotta be better than that girl in the video …
I haven’t sparred with women in a long time, though.
Where am I supposed to hit them? If I can’t hit the back, the neck, the head, the face … and probably the chest, then what does that leave?
Arms, legs and stomach? Butt? Shoulders?
I guess I could go and just be their target practice. You gotta figure women who study at a feminist school probably have a lot of anti-male issues. LOL[/QUOTE]
Why can’t you hit them in the back, neck,head ,face or chest? I spar and expect to get hit in those places! I just wear a head guard, mouth guard, and shortly a chest guard.
I train with men, and really enjoy it, as I said previously, I wouldnt like to go to an all womens club- must be as a result of going to an all girls school and hating it!
My ex was beat, & stalked by one of her past boyfrinds, and ended up in a support group for abused women. At one point, she tried to get me in there to teach self defense to them, as she thought women should be able to fight (those of you who have met theresa…I bet you can’t picture her in a group like that!).
Anyway, it never happened because they were HIGLY suspicious of all men, didn’t trust any of us, and basically wanted to isolate themselves totally from the male population. it’s almost as if they believed all men were abusive, like it was just hard wired into our genes, and we could not help ourselves.
Theresa eventually left the group, because they offered no actual help in dealing with her stalker, only sympathy, and emotional support & well being. That didn’t sit well with Theresa, she wanted someone to help her shoot the SOB.
Hmmm, just had a thought Theresa pretty much was my daughter’s mother figure…no wonder her BioMom’s landlord is STILL sporting bruises from 2+ weeks ago.
[QUOTE=Donkwoon;703618]What does that mean? Just wondering.[/QUOTE]
A smoker is basically a local competition, open to all who want to enter. they aren’t sanctioned, they are just fight nights. they have them all over the country, typically hosted by local boxing or kickboxing schools.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;703701]donkwoon has the correct.
it surely does beat a quilting bee nd becoming a fattie instead of doing something fun like this.
actually, people can be a bit too quick to rag on folks like this for whatever reaons. Either it’s because they are not beating on each other and playing ufc in their club, or in this case because they are lesbians or feminists.
unfortunate that so clled “kungfu” people, or martial minds tend to drift in this petty finger pointing and whining that is all too apparent in martial arts.
even in those places where “no ego” is claimed, there seems to be a lot.
I think, Im gonna continue my practice and pay less attention to what others have to say about it. especially when they are not putting themselves up as the comparison point.
cheapshots are unbecoming of a martial artist.
I think these girls are doing something good for themselves and that’s more important than cage matches and minutia of tai chi. I mean, who really cares about all this ritual dance we do anyway and why is your ritual dance any better than there? Is it because sometimes another ritual dancer hits you in the face that makes it more valid?
which brings me to another point, all this talk about self defense, street fighting, realism etc etc. That’s all bullshit really on a lot of levels.
no training will protect you from the bitter reality of your own death. no training will stop a bullet from cutting through you and totally destroying however many years of training you have, no amount of boxing or wrestling will weigh up against much more thanb someone else who wants to ritually dance with you.
or sure, you might have gotten out of a scrape or two and decided to attribute your escape to your ritual dance functionality…but really, in the real reality, you got out because you had the will to do so.
we tie so much baggae to martial arts we actually can’t see the arts because it’s covered in the luggage of our own illsuions set upon it.
Im going to continue my practice for the reason that I enjoy it, it lets off a little steam and keeps me reasonably fit and healthy. Im not a 20 something dude with something to prove by entering tournamnet fighting. that’s way behind me. Im not even interested in old war stories or legends or any of that anymore.
Im going to continue to do this thing for me because i enjoy it and Im goin to be very concious of bagging on others.
anyway, that’s my rant. go seven star girls, you get out there an kick some air like everyone else is enjoying!! :D[/QUOTE]
Thanks DJ. I’m glad someone can appreciate what I’m trying to do.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703617]There’s some MMA up in some reservation around Everett or something and some MMA down in some other reservation by Olympia or something, but what is there around Seattle?
I still can’t believe you really are at this school. I thought you said you were a bouncer or had a club or something.
Why the women only emphasis, then? That makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
I am a bouncer. I have three jobs. I am a web developer, I bounce and I teach.
[QUOTE=SevenStar;703744]I am a bouncer. I have three jobs. I am a web developer, I bounce and I teach.[/QUOTE]
Okay, either I’m missing a long running joke, or this is really your school, and you’re actually a chick.
Okay then, how does the sparring work? I’ve got gloves, shinguards, foot pads and cup from my last karate place.
I haven’t sparred with any women in a while, but I won’t take your heads off or anything. Do you allow any grabbing or takedowns in sparring, or is it just kickboxing? I’m assuming light contact. What are the allowed target areas?
[QUOTE=Su Lin;703731]Why can’t you hit them in the back, neck,head ,face or chest? I spar and expect to get hit in those places! I just wear a head guard, mouth guard, and shortly a chest guard.
I train with men, and really enjoy it, as I said previously, I wouldnt like to go to an all womens club- must be as a result of going to an all girls school and hating it![/QUOTE]
Well I don’t know. In my last club contact to the chest was extremely frowned upon. It’s been about 7 years since I sparred with any women, but I think the only place I could hit them was arms, legs and stomach. I think I could touch their face and heads but that was about it.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703749]Okay, either I’m missing a long running joke, or this is really your school, and you’re actually a chick.
Okay then, how does the sparring work? I’ve got gloves, shinguards, foot pads and cup from my last karate place.
I haven’t sparred with any women in a while, but I won’t take your heads off or anything. Do you allow any grabbing or takedowns in sparring, or is it just kickboxing? I’m assuming light contact. What are the allowed target areas?[/QUOTE]
I’m not a chick - the chick is one of my students. I’m not at all worried about you taking either her head or mine off. you nailed the target areas in your reply to su lin. contact level depends on who you opponent is. Some of them do like to mix it up. If we are doing san shou sparring, then yes, takedowns are allowed.
[QUOTE=lunghushan;703750]Well I don’t know. In my last club contact to the chest was extremely frowned upon. It’s been about 7 years since I sparred with any women, but I think the only place I could hit them was arms, legs and stomach. I think I could touch their face and heads but that was about it.[/QUOTE]
I suppose it depends on your style really. I’m expected to take blows as the guys do, which Im fine with as I started kung fu realising there would be fighting involved. I’m having a few sparring issues at the moment, lost my nerve after 2 months off with an injury.
[QUOTE=SevenStar;703752]I’m not a chick - the chick is one of my students. I’m not at all worried about you taking either her head or mine off. you nailed the target areas in your reply to su lin. contact level depends on who you opponent is. Some of them do like to mix it up. If we are doing san shou sparring, then yes, takedowns are allowed.[/QUOTE]
Okay, I’m totally confused, then. You said this is your club, that is your student, but there are NO men listed as instructors. So what are you, asexual?