[QUOTE=SevenStar;702658]it’s a blend of things I’ve trained over the years,.[/QUOTE]
does that include the cosmotology classes?
There’s a lot of people out there who do cardio kickboxing, cardio boxing, and so on that really think they are developing fight strategies. when it is mixed in with a little spirituality and what not, aromatheraphy etc etc it is a very appealing thing to a great many people.
most people would opt for that level of comfort in their training and that is where the mistake is.
eating nails is not what a great majority of training is about. It is also clear that it’s not what that club is about, or any number of other places. regardless of styles or non styles or what have you.
there is no “one” correct way. there may very well be something of value there. Is it of value to you is the question.
Quite a lot of people do martial arts because it is a different way of keeping fit and it’s something they enjoy. They are not in it to become the next ufc champ. In fact, the amount of people who practice martial arts compared to the amount of people who train to fight competitively is so vast it is staggerring.
How many ufc fighters on the circuits? I’m going to guess it is less in number than the membership of even just this board and that’s inclusive to all the alter egos that are here.
bagging on crap is silly. It’s like complaing that the grass is not green enough.
LOLOLOL sevenstar? pleae tell me that is not your school… OMG
WOW and people wonder why kung fu has a bad name in some cities.
The funny thing was that her moves looked more like hand to hand combat from taekwondo than karate, she wore a chinese frog button uniform with a japanese cotton obi but then called it a form??? WTF? problem is this is what a lot of people are learnig and beging taught . This is why there needs to be an orginization to control who teaches and is allowed to open a school.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;703114]This is why there needs to be an orginization to control who teaches and is allowed to open a school.[/QUOTE]
Dangerous words there my friend. ![]()
dangerous for whom? You have to have a license to drive, do plumbing, electical and various other things yet anybody whether they suck, are black belts, learned from videos or whatever can open a school and teach whatever crap they know. pretty sad in my eyes.
if you cant cook and never been to culinary school and dont have a certification or a degree you cant open a resturant but yet we allow unqulalified tards open a school and try to educate other people in our society? and call it martial arts?
What about all the little family styles, that have no rank systems, or methods of certifcations?
Think Modern Wushu (PRC’s attempt to standardize and control CMA). Maybe the NY peeps can talk about attempts there to control the MA scene.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;703121]dangerous for whom? You have to have a license to drive, do plumbing, electical and various other things yet anybody whether they suck, are black belts, learned from videos or whatever can open a school and teach whatever crap they know. pretty sad in my eyes.
if you cant cook and never been to culinary school and dont have a certification or a degree you cant open a resturant but yet we allow unqulalified tards open a school and try to educate other people in our society? and call it martial arts?[/QUOTE]
You make a good point but this is where I see a problem with that; The things that you listed are trades that are regulated for safety reasons. While you could say that the same could be said about martail arts, CMA for folks like myself is a spiritual practice as much as a life style and fitness program. Yes there is a ton of bullcrap out there and that’s sad but it’s much less scary than having some government body becoming involved with my spiritual life.
I Understand your points. I too am spiritual and study my art for many other reasons than for fighting, However when you are in public and you are supposed to be an educator of any sort i.e martial arts teacher then there should be at least SOMETHING out there that regulates who is qualified and who is not.
I belong to the A.C.M.A.F american chinese martial arts federation and although i do not agree with alot of the things they do… i do like that fact that you must have certain levels and qualifications to teach. this is my point. perhaps the people in that town have never been exposed to any real arts and they feel like they are actulally learning something as with the sincerity of that poor girl. i just think there needs to be just a little influence on who does what.
the problem with regulation is who gets to say who’s legitamate and who’s not? also, what technically constitutes an MA? e.g. - Tai Chi was originally just a MA, but now it’s for health, although some people still practice it as an MA, or both; are judo and TKD sports or a MAs? the distinctions are very blurry, so that’s why it ain’t gonna work to decide who can call what a MA;
the same thing goes for innstructors: at what level is someone considered eligible to instruct? what would be the criteria? skill? time spent training? what about someone who is very good and trained a long time, but has never been taught how to teach? what if you want to teach out of your backyard to a few private students instead of opening a public school? it’s really too difficult to regulate this profession, IMHO…
so, unfortunately, the world of MA is one in which the concept of caveat emptor will continue to reign supreme…
what if you want to teach out of your backyard to a few private students instead of opening a public school?
i dont think earth dragon was really worried about those guys … those guys aren’t the problem. i’m not sure how i feel about regulation in this regard, but i see his point.
That’s like the McDonald’s and Steakhouse comparison someone else made in a different thread. Just because the Steakhouse is “better”, doesn’t mean McDonald’s should be outlawed. Honestly, if someone else feels more comfortable being lied to, that’s on them. If they really don’t know any better, then I empathize, but half of life’s lessons have to be smacked into you.
Regulations might get rid of the worst of something, but they’ve got a pretty big history of smacking down the best of it along the way.
Here’s the problem with the associations and organisations that claim to represent a “Standard”…
The frauds and wannabees are the first to join to get the credentials, and the old masters all reckon, “what do I need to pay those guys money for?”
A lot of folks here must have studied tiger styles. Extended claws and rip, rip, rip! That doesn’t stand for rest in peace either.![]()
I think a womans only BJJ school would be very nice. With me as the instructor - then again, I dont know BJJ… I’ll hire an instructor, and be the fall guy.
Eddies Womans Only BJJ and Oil Wrestling School. ![]()
I think people’s objections here are due to the fact that these women are living a dangerous fantasy. They really have little clue how to defend themselves, yet believe that they are skilled at it ![]()
ugh, I think people are being a little too hard on this. The lady only has two years of training and those other women have who knows how long. I won’t say anything about how she moves, but who knows whether she can defend herself or not. If she knees a guy in the nuts and lives, well done.
[QUOTE=GunnedDownAtrocity;703236]i dont think earth dragon was really worried about those guys … those guys aren’t the problem. i’m not sure how i feel about regulation in this regard, but i see his point.[/QUOTE]
oh, I certainly see his point in terms of wanting some sort of quality control - I mean, there are as many quality schools out there as there are total crapola ones - even from the same lineage; however, it’s so hard to establsh quality, even with very standardized regs - e.g. - in the PT world, we all go to acrredited schools, do at least a year of internships and take a licensing exam - but the variety in terms of skill, or lack thereof, in the PT field is astounding - (personally, I wouldn’t let 95% of the “manual therapy” PT’s out there lay a finger on me…) - the only thing that is uniform, and what is non-existent in the MA world - if I treat you and mess you up, you can sue me, file a complaint with the licensing board, etc. - in other words, because I am a licensed profesional, the public has recourse if I do something innapropriate - now, wouldn’t it be nice, if you studied self-defense, got your butt kicked somewhere and then could go and sue your instructor…?![]()
Yeah even so-called military martial arts like Krav Maga the quality varies. I went to the local school and they totally sucked compared to the school in NY for example.
The only solution it seems would be to have combative standards, boards set up by people in the military or something, and you study with certified teachers who are tested, and there are standards, physical training standards and testing standards.
It would be difficult, but it is definitely possible.
The issue that I have with the training at this place is not so much the forms and all that, because those seem like okay forms – it is just that she obviously has no idea the strength or force required to pull those techniques off against a resisting opponent.
Same thing with the Krav Maga school I went to locally. It was like Krav Maga for suburbanites. They were not even kicking the bag hard.