I learnt at training that there has always been 5 families training within Shaolin. From what I could gather it was family meaning from master to disciple familiy, not meaning passed from father to son. Is there any recomended resources that anyone can point me in to read further?
5 families are 5 famous cantonese boxing families from futsan county in Guangdong province.
they are not shaolin. Chinese hillbilly kung fu has a habit of making false claims. my hometown has some hillbilly kung fu people who claimed wudang origin since 1800s but have nothing to do with wudang.
the 5 families are not famous in china, they are famous because the 1800 Chinese immigrants are all from futsan, and gave birth to Chinatown kung fu.
cantonese like to act like they are the “default” real Chinese. Guangdong (eastern bay) used to be called vietdong (eastern viet) and cantonese used to be called the viet people.
[QUOTE=bawang;1241776]cantonese like to act like they are the “default” real Chinese. [/QUOTE]
If you are Chinese and you don’t speak Cantonese, Chinatown waiters won’t even serve you in restaurant.
In some WC threads discussion, I always use the word “Shou” and I refuse to use the word “Sau”.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1241789]If you are Chinese and you don’t speak Cantonese, Chinatown waiters won’t even serve you in restaurant.
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in my hometown we called the cantonese “kang ing” and “shi dang”. because the cantonese boat prostitutes always say “come in” and “sit down”
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1241789]
In some WC threads discussion, I always use the word “Shou” and I refuse to use the word “Sau”.[/QUOTE]
wing chun comes from the boat prostitute people called the dan.
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thank you youknowwho… my pet hate is people using cantonese terminology when talking about “northern mantis” haha
Bawang, where is your hometown?
[QUOTE=Greatsage;1241768]I learnt at training that there has always been 5 families training within Shaolin. From what I could gather it was family meaning from master to disciple familiy, not meaning passed from father to son. Is there any recomended resources that anyone can point me in to read further?[/QUOTE]
You have heard a load of radishes my friend.
teaching Kung fu is a Master to student transmission.
5 is an auspicious number though. In myriad ways.
[QUOTE=Tea Serpent;1241799]Bawang, where is your hometown?[/QUOTE]
funing county Jiangsu province
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1241809]You have heard a load of radishes my friend.
teaching Kung fu is a Master to student transmission.
5 is an auspicious number though. In myriad ways.[/QUOTE]
hes talking about hung, loi, choi, mok, lau, the 5 elders from Chinatown kung fu
Thanks bawang.
I am sure I did not interpret what I heard at class properly, so what you have informed me is a great start to start researching.
I recommend you quit now and just learn from youtube. those Chinatown kung fu are very sh1tty.
Five Famillies
[QUOTE=bawang;1241942]I recommend you quit now and just learn from youtube. those Chinatown kung fu are very sh1tty.[/QUOTE]
The Five Family Style is a fantastic style. What what makes you or your style so great to pass judgement?
[QUOTE=bawang;1241776]5 families are 5 famous cantonese boxing families from futsan county in Guangdong province.
they are not shaolin. Chinese hillbilly kung fu has a habit of making false claims. my hometown has some hillbilly kung fu people who claimed wudang origin since 1800s but have nothing to do with wudang.
the 5 families are not famous in china, they are famous because the 1800 Chinese immigrants are all from futsan, and gave birth to Chinatown kung fu.
cantonese like to act like they are the “default” real Chinese. Guangdong (eastern bay) used to be called vietdong (eastern viet) and cantonese used to be called the viet people.[/QUOTE]
Is this the same Five Families style that GM Ark Wong taught in California or was there alot of instructors that did this back then?
[QUOTE=Kevin73;1241946]Is this the same Five Families style that GM Ark Wong taught in California or was there alot of instructors that did this back then?[/QUOTE]
I don’t know what u Chinatown weekend warriors mean by five family style. Cantonese kung fu has five famous styles, taught by five families. this is basic knowledge, even retard should know this.
Five Family Style
Ignore Bawang. He is retarded with his negative childlike comments (no offense on real retarded people). I have not seen a post where he states his style and experience. Wonder why? His style is hillbilly mouth boxing.
Yes, the style is from Ark Wong. Any other instructors came from him.
[QUOTE=kfman5F;1242010]Ignore Bawang. He is retarded with his negative childlike comments (no offense on real retarded people). I have not seen a post where he states his style and experience. Wonder why? His style is hillbilly mouth boxing.
Yes, the style is from Ark Wong. Any other instructors came from him.[/QUOTE]
i train tai chi and long fist.
you are offended because you are not Chinese. you spent money and time, therefore it MUST be good.
[QUOTE=bawang;1241842]funing county Jiangsu province
hes talking about hung, loi, choi, mok, lau, the 5 elders from Chinatown kung fu[/QUOTE]
5 surnames of southern kung fu are not one style. YOu know this. I know this. hence what I said.
Hey Greatsage, are you talking about san soo and jimmy woo and his origin story?
5 families of south are: Hung, Li, Choy, Mok and Lau
5 style of the North are: Hua, Fa, Pao, Cha and Hong
South five are family names, North 5 are concept names.
Other styles are offshoots of these, pre conceived prior to these or singularly conceived after these.
Some will substitute “Fut” into the 5 southern and replace Mok or Lau with it to represent Fut gar or Buddha family.
Fwiw, I believe Ark Wong Yuey taught 5 animals style. The whole san soo group is the 5 family thing and I’ve recently learned that all came straight form Jimmy Woo who apparently was telling a story that his art was so old that somehow he had buddhist martial arts in there before buddhism even made it into china. So, there’s that…
Otherwise, hate to rain on your parade, but Bawang is correct.
Five Family Style
[QUOTE=bawang;1242040]i train tai chi and long fist.
you are offended because you are not Chinese. you spent money and time, therefore it MUST be good.[/QUOTE]
You make unfounded assumptions. Not being Chinese has nothing to do with anything. There are good and bad teachers/students both Chinese and otherwise. But you already know that. Time and money well spent is worth it, no matter what one studies. In your line of thinking the time and money YOU spent on Tai Chi and Long Fist, they MUST be good. Goes both ways. Being Chinese does not make for a better martial artist.
[QUOTE=kfman5F;1242051]You make unfounded assumptions. Not being Chinese has nothing to do with anything. There are good and bad teachers/students both Chinese and otherwise. But you already know that. Time and money well spent is worth it, no matter what one studies. In your line of thinking the time and money YOU spent on Tai Chi and Long Fist, they MUST be good. Goes both ways. Being Chinese does not make for a better martial artist.[/QUOTE]
you want me to spell out why Chinatown kung fu has problems?
First of all, why do you call it “Chinatown” Kung Fu? Let’s hear what the problems are. Then please let us know what you have that makes you and your art better. I hope you will be honest and reply to that.
Wait..according to the Ark Wong story, he taught in the style of the 5 families, 5 animal Kung Fu.
I think something is getting lost in translation here.