Who can use their Wing Chun skills against an MMA fighter with stand up and ground work…
Im speaking to the purist who do not compromise their WC with MMA techniques to make their WC quasi more functional? Lol…
Who has WC un-infiltrated by Westernized methodology that can still stand up to western fighting like MMA?
note the key components of BJJ and MMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrP3d-2pKKA
this is what your Upagainst?
Against a bjj guy my vt is far better then his stand up.
its like comparing apples to bananas. I train with guys who are pretty good at BJJ and MMA (not top fighters of course) and when we play with standard rules I do okay in stand up. On the ground with standard rules I do less well but whenever we’ve messed about with expanded rules (groin shots, strikes to the back of the head, kicks and knees on the floor, and even light contact to the eyes and throat) I do pretty well again. I don’t see why there is this obsession with style versus style, there’s room for everyone and ultimately it comes down to who is the better fighter / who is able to impose their fight / who gets lucky.
It is another silly thread.
joy chaudhuri
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1162049]It is another silly thread.
joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]
Y’know I have never put anyone on my ignore list yet, but Yoshi may be my first!
I have no idea why anyone bothers to even to respond to Y’s posts… must be a bad case of net addiction.
joy chaudhuri
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1161956]Who can use their Wing Chun skills against an MMA fighter with stand up and ground work…
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IMO people who test themselves against that kind of pressure, and who are able to stop takedowns to prevent the fight going to an area they are untrained.
It’s not rocket science.
Oh God. The stupid, it burns.
good lord, it never ends with this guy.
Yoshi, maybe you could tell us all how YOU do against MMA guys first, you know, just to get the ball rolling.. :rolleyes:
You guys are just jealous because you can’t come up with such refreshing and though-provokaing threads !
Next up:
Bong Sao, it’s not just for getting high anymore !
You guys are just jealous because you can’t come up with such refreshing and though-provokaing threads !
Sanjuro is right. There’s never been a WC vs MMA or WC vs BJJ thread on here before. Can’t you guys think outside the box?
Ne Way…this thread was comical to me…
i was just having fun..sorry for those who took it seriously.
thanks for the serious input out there..but since my threads are under so much scruntiny i decided to just be silly with the likes of some of those who over critical and never share any realistic useful information…
ne way did any one look at the youtube video…wow thats a classic!
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1162053]Y’know I have never put anyone on my ignore list yet, but Yoshi may be my first![/QUOTE]
Ive been trying for ages!!! 
Seriously though, surely he’s between the age of 10 and 15??
ne way did any one look at the youtube video…wow thats a classic!
Like most of what you post, it has been posted here several times before, though without the … er … unique … insights only you can bring.
It wasn’t really funny at all tbh. This is funny:
I perfer these!
the origins of BJJ
dominate your opponent
make him submit to your will
indure the pain in silence, loss of control is maddening
We can do this the hard way, or the soft way…either way your going down buddy
This is why chi sau was invented, to advoid this posistion!
I perfer these!
indure the pain in silence
to advoid this posistion!
Google Chrome has spell check, so there isn’t really an excuse for you to come across as an illiterate moron.
Unless there is no excuse and you do not have the choice, of course.
Greetings,
Since I do not participate in this forum, I do not know how you guys stand with Randy Williams. He is taking a stab at it using traditional Wing Chun as his template:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whMA5lsi7SA&feature=related
mickey
Since I do not participate in this forum, I do not know how you guys stand with Randy Williams. He is taking a stab at it using traditional Wing Chun as his template:
“traditional” Wing Chun has always had ground fighting techniques, chin-na and takedowns. It has less/none in the way of positional control, pin escapes or the technicalities of ground and pound.
That’s OK - BJJ isn’t much at punching or kicking. As long as no one is trying to tell you a style is something that it is not.
I first learned those kicks in the vid from a Kung fu instructor in 1977, and similarly again from my WC instructor in 1989. And similarly again from an MMA instructor in about 1998.
This stuff can be effective against a standing opponent, and you have to be pretty good and pretty careful to move in on a guy who is good at this stuff. Antonio Inoki used it effectively against Muhammad Ali, and the best example I can remember was Allan Goes vs Sakuraba, who was no slouch as a fighter, back in Pride. Vitor Belfort tried it against Saku as well, but not nearly as effectively.
The throw looks like a cross between a parry/slip, head and arm choke, and osotogari which any decent wrestler or judoka could do very much better. Yes, I know that trip is in one of the dummy sets.
Nothing new here. Though I don’t think RW is/was claiming such.
I’m trying to get the jist of what you are trying to prove here? That BJJ is gay? rolling on the ground is gay? I’m not getting what you are (getting) at. I can’t speak for WC but I do know that it’s relatively striking oriented. But on the other hand I do know ground work. So what is it you are stating? 