Heard this yet:
Looks like the US goverment can now do anything to it’s travellers.
I thought that they were considered private property and opening them would be the same to walking into your house to do a search.
What will be next: open envelopes & Parcels??
Just my 0.2 cents worth of thought.
Surely that violates the much vaunted US Bill of Rights or something doesn’t it?
Originally posted by joedoe
Surely that violates the much vaunted US Bill of Rights or something doesn’t it?
I think it falls under “War of Terrorism” and we know that in war times anything goes.
Originally posted by joedoe
Surely that violates the much vaunted US Bill of Rights or something doesn’t it?
You should know by now that the Bill of Rights, Constitution, etc. is only important when it suits.
American civil liberties are vanishing at a furious rate of knots, yet they seem to do nothing about it.
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Well, look at what happens on this board. In one thread, I said that it was important for the U.S. to recognize the mistakes we make, to take some modicom of responsibility and was accused of siding with the terrorists.
My people are mad with grief and rage.
With all the new rules and regulations by the INS and now this I think more and more overseas Tourists will think twice before travelling to the states.
My fellow colleagues are already crumbling about the hassles of going over for a bussines trip over there.
Things like this will hurt the economy and the arleady ailing air-lines.
Last time I saw similar measures was when I traveled to some East-block countries.
Just my 0.2 cents worth of thought.
d@mn… must have missed that one eulerfan
im just wondering what the heck has happened to people these days? :eek:
dawood
It was said somewhat tongue in cheek eulerfan. It’s just that whenever there is an argument that may cover fundamental philosophies (like the Constitution & Bill of Rights) the people arguing on the US side try to rub it in our faces as if the US constitution or Bill of Rights makes US citizens more free or something.
Having said all that, this latest thing does open the door for violation of privacy if inspectors are allowed to simply inspect people’s luggage without the owner being there. Also seems to me like it could present some temptations to people who might be less than ethical.
It’s the start of the inevitable collapse.
Holy Roman Empire
Originally posted by eulerfan
Holy Roman Empire
You said it, BatGirl.
What’s so bad about it? If you’ve got nothing to hide?
Originally posted by Serpent
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You said it, BatGirl. [/B]
Okay, so then some dark ages, that’ll suck. But then an age of enlightenment, right? That’ll be cool.
Originally posted by eulerfan
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Okay, so then some dark ages, that’ll suck. But then an age of enlightenment, right? That’ll be cool. [/B]
Every cloud, eh!
Originally posted by Sharky
What’s so bad about it? If you’ve got nothing to hide?
That’s beside the point. It’s an invasion of privacy and a lack of trust. It’s basically guilty until proven innocent, which is very wrong. What if I came round your house and said I wanted to look through all your stuff? After all, what’s wrong with that if you’ve got nothing to hide?
Not to mention the possibility for corruption, set-ups, frames, etc.
In that cartoon ‘Saddle Rash’ there’s this scene where two oulaws are riding through the wild west. One says, “I mean, it’s like with a ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive’ poster. You can’t just look at the ‘Wanted: Dead’ part. You have to look at the ‘or alive’, too.”
What is this ‘trust’ you speak of? Most people don’t trust THEMSELVES, let alone the lives of countless people just because it’d be nice not to have someone look in your bags.
it’s a **** AEROPLANE afterall - with it’s fuel on board it’s basically a huge human guided missile - i personally can’t believe how easy it would have been for me to smuggle things on a plane when i went to amsterdam a few months ago (but that’s another thread, ahem).
they aren’t doing it for fun, y’know. also, they were only asking - they didn’t force anyone to do anything.
They check baggage through x-ray machines in the airport. They can do that with all luggage with the owners present.
There’s a lot more to this than security.
Security is the latest way of saying “All Your Rights Are Belong To Us!”
“All Your Rights Are Belong To Us!”
maybe there needs to bea grammar police too :eek:
lol 
but agree with what u say
dawood