OT: The Culture of Corruption Will be the Death of China

i talk the truth about my own country and people like you dont want to hear it that is fine
please dont insult, you would not dare say that to my face and im trying to keep polite

and…?

If you could stop editing your comments it might make the thread easier to read and respond to.

i edit to save space i dont like extra posting
most of my posts were me trying to repond to your nitpicking and btiching, i delete them to stop flooding forums, my aplology guys

hi simon, i was trying to say that the cultgural rlevoluton did a lot of damage to the chinese culture. a lot of the religion, customs, traditions and holidays have been simplified, and in many parts of the country religion and traiditional costums were totally eliminated and had to be reintroduced from other nearby regions. traditional values were replaced by cunbmmunist idealogy and when deng xiaoping slowly abolished that, we had nothing. my opinion is this led to corruption, which is very rampant.

you have to bribe almost every single person higher up in power than you to sruvive. i have bribed from my elementary teacher to my doctor, my relative had to brice to get a job, etc, etc.
of course there are people from all ages and social class in china trying to make a difference, but the task is so overwhelming
instead of punishing the corrupt officials i think china needs to look deeper into its problems. when you have to bribe in your everyday life, whats keeping you from being corrupt when you steps into high power?
i know nobody wants to read about negative things , its depressing but this relates to the topic, i try not to bring this up often, so please try to have an open mind.

i told this guy below me i am from china and situation there isnt good, but he just insults me and says i’m wrong without proof. hes talke like a average internet nerd talking out of his bloddy gaping anus, possibly hemmoroids, im not gonna play his game, sorry about that this is a sensitive topic for me, i get into a blind rage

The fact that you feel the need to keep ‘adjusting’ your comments demonstrates that I was correct in my initial assessment.

Stop with the hyperbole and choose your words more carefully.

suck my left nut

edit: yes oh great one i am wrong about my own country , your vague and confusing one liners and ancient knowledge from dsicovery channel is wise and true, after 50 years of oppresion nothing is wrong in china, we still have velly good culture, we are happies here, me soooooo solly
oh no i have edited my post !!that is not allowed you have defeated me! oh wise cracker internet warrior, yes i am a horrible liar, everything in china is great its just like the tourist bronchours and the national geographic programs, happy rainbow donkey boner

dont talk to me again

What a compelling argument… :rolleyes:

And why do you keep changing your every post?

[QUOTE=bawang;898171]you say
“China has quite a lot of culture. More than most places in fact.”
but your title is
“The culture of corruption will be the death of china”
i think u contradict urself[/QUOTE]

Here is the thing Bawang:

There is a difference between THE Culture of China and a culture of specific behaviour within China.

I have a great fondness for China. I lived there, speak mandarin, my wife is Chinese, and the people of Shanxi (most of whom are much to poor to benefit from the corruption in China) are some of the most welcoming and wholesome I have ever met.

That being said I am a strong believer that one should be willing to work to change those things that are wrong with a place / organization / tradition / nation without being unkind. My post was intended in that vein. I think there may have been a disconnect between us with regards to my intent. I hope this helps. :slight_smile:

If Kansuke is getting on your nerves too much there is always the ignore function. :wink:

wow i never knew that, my respect to you man
its nice to know things are still doing good in shanxi, i havent visited in 5 years so anything can happen who knows

[QUOTE=bawang;898224]suck my left nut

edit: yes oh great one i am wrong about my own country , your vague and confusing one liners and ancient knowledge from dsicovery channel is wise and true, after 50 years of oppresion nothing is wrong in china, we still have velly good culture, we are happies here, me soooooo solly
oh no i have edited my post !!that is not allowed you have defeated me! oh wise cracker internet warrior, yes i am a horrible liar, everything in china is great its just like the tourist bronchours and the national geographic programs, happy rainbow donkey boner

dont talk to me again[/QUOTE]

sorry to intrude on the thread, but this was so **** funny. today is soooo slow at work and no one really posting. all my side jobs are done so i am to read a book or do the internet thing.

this made me laugh this morning. lol thanks.

no intention of being negative to kansuke either, just the statement itself is comical.

[QUOTE=bawang;898283]wow i never knew that, my respect to you man
its nice to know things are still doing good in shanxi, i havent visited in 5 years so anything can happen who knows[/QUOTE]

It’s much the same as it always was. The people there have eaten bitter for so long that many seem to convert it to sweetness. The mine owners and the governors still drive around in large black sedans (a few more SUVs now too) and occasionally get themselves in trouble when some poor men die a mile underground in an unlicensed coal mine or a mud slide buries a whole village.

And yet, the average person in Shanxi remains welcoming, generous, genial hosts and stalwart friends.

And therein lies the tragedy of China…

Because so many people who live there are such good people - and manage to do such credit to those who would say that human nature is essentially good.

And a small number of (pardon my language) a$sholes ruin it by exploiting and pillaging and taking all they can on the backs of people who are so used to hardship that they simply bear the load stoically.

PS:
Sakura Kim cafe at nearly the precise center of Pingyao remains my favorite quiet hangout spot on earth.

Just so you know (but not that it matters, because irrational generalisms are irrational generalisms in any case) but I lived for two years in Shaanxi (not Shanxi).

have you ever thought maybe the people you met didnt want to tell you the negative things in their country to save face
even if you live 10 years there still would be a barrier

Really? Which prefecture? :slight_smile:

Xi’an, in Shaanxi, not all that far from your old stomping grounds.

About 8 hours bus ride from Lishi in Lvliang prefecture. Never visited… if I was going to go that far by bus it was usually to Beijing, my favorite city on earth.

“Favorite city on earth?” :eek:

Why?

you took a bus to Beijing from Xian? :eek: Dont they hav that speed train thingy that goes to Bejing from Xian?

I hate busses even more than trains in China. If I have to take a train its softsleeper always.

[QUOTE=Eddie;898666]you took a bus to Beijing from Xian? :eek: Dont they hav that speed train thingy that goes to Bejing from Xian?[/quote]

No, I took a bus from Lishi to Beijing. If you were to draw a line from Xi’an to Beijing Lishi would be almost exactly 50 of the way along the line.

I hate busses even more than trains in China. If I have to take a train its softsleeper always.

Wimp. :stuck_out_tongue:

Train: Hard Sleeper and Hard Seat.
Bus: Anything that involves a distance of less than 800 kms except for going to Shaolin because it would have involved 3 transfers to get to Luoyang from Lishi by bus.

And Beijing is my favorite city because I love the juxtaposition of historical and modern, Sanliton is a great district for night life, and you can’t beat the deals at Xiushueijie as long as you are good at bargaining… plus haggling makes shopping fun!