That meat is later packaged and resold to the lowest bidder, which, by the way, is the Public School System.
No wonder I was always a hungry child…
got to love public schools…
which by the way is where the gf works.
All the more reason for no one to go to McDonalds. K-mart sucked, nobody went there now look what’s happening to them. People just need to have the same perception of McDonalds. If the general public did, they would go under. They are already in trouble as it is.
-Will
my only question to you guys is:
Have you tasted the mcgriddle…
Mc Food’s
No, is it any good?
I love Big Macs.
In China, a Macdonalds is an Oasis of Heaven.
A Big Mac is probably the last thing i will remember on my deathbed and wish I had time for one more.
Does anyone remember the MacDLT’s?
One side hot meat , one side cold lettuce and tomatoes and when it was time to eat it, you put both sides together.
I wish they would bring them back. I guess they were too much trouble to make.
How many people complain about MacDonalds and still eat there?
They pretty much control the beef and potato industry, which are unregulated.
uh, I think you are wrong about this. All foods are pretty strongly regulated in the US by the Food and Drug admin and by similar bodies in other countries.
The murky part would be in the actual preparation of the food, but it should be good when it gets there.
sounds like his metabolism went catabolic. it’s more threatening for your heart if you bod becomes super efficient at burning fats. your digestive tract can actualy ignore carbs in that state of function. see any metabolic or cardiac problems with this?
No. I’m right about this.
The meat industry has the power of recall. The FDA cannot force them to do it, and can only shut down a dirty meat packaging plant to try to force it’s hand. However, in every case where the FDA inspectors have shut down a packager because of tainted meat in the last 7 years, it was re-opened under court order withing 48 hours.
They spend lots of money on lobbies to keep the industry unregulated.
McDonald’s is also behind the legistlation to allow immigrants temporary work visas to come to America for “jobs Americans don’t want” because they can pay less than minimum wage and do not have to offer health benefits. They have been trying to pass this legislation for about 10 years, and they finally have pro-corporation President willing to test it.
I completely agree that personal responsibilty is the main issue. But McDonald’s has a horrible record of corporate abuses. They are the worst example you could use to try to promote the idea of responsible and morally conscious corporatations.
I’m not saying that the power of corporations in america isn’t skewed, it is. And that’s because of the almighty dollar and therein is the real addiction.
I’m saying, I am a little doubtful about the industry not being regulated.
As far as I know, it is strictly regulated.
sounds like his metabolism went catabolic. it’s more threatening for your heart if you bod becomes super efficient at burning fats. your digestive tract can actualy ignore carbs in that state of function. see any metabolic or cardiac problems with this?
This post doesn’t make any sense in the context of this topic. Catabolic state is simply the state of burning more calories than are available in your system, so you use stored energy to keep the body running. That’s it. Nothing more dramatic than that.
McDonald’s is chock full of carbs so nobody ever has to worry about that.
Finally, nutritionists have conclusively demonstrated that there is no such thing as essential foods, only essential nutrients. You can live quite well on meat and fat, provided it contains the nutrients you need. Northern Native American diets are an excellent example. The various meats, fish and marine mammals they eat provide all of their nutrient needs, including vitamins and minerals. They survived for months on this during the winter - quite healthily and happily.
MK, APPETITE ENHANCER?! OK, now we’re starting to get into an interesting realm. By interesting, I mean fairly improbable, but if you can point to something, I’d be interested in reading it.
Appetite is a function of hormone secretion, so if you are talking about something that actually enhances your appetite, you’re talking about something that screws with hormone production, reabsorption or reception. You’re talking about something that would cause a person to consistently keep eating beyond satiation.
However, some parts of the food industry refer to flavor enhancers as “Appetite enhancers.” Flavor enhancers run the gamut from salt, to lemon juice to various glutamic acid compounds. Each works on the same principle - they increase ionization of flavinoids in the mouth which enhances the flavor. If this is the nefarious “Appetite Enhancer,” then it’s no different than putting salt on your meal. Hardly a devious thing…
Amen to that sista. When I’m rich, I will have a house with a basement, and a built in chick-fil-a. That fkr will be open on Sundays too.
Let’s not forget the mono sodium glutamate that McD’s uses in many of it’s products. also known as MSG. It has been shown that MSG actually can be a step on teh road to obesity! go figure. the glutamate industry folks are up in arms about that though…
anyway, they aren’t going out of business anytime soon.
People don’t wanna make a meal for themselves it seems.
It would seem that humans in general are innately lazy. The conditions of survival weigh heavy on whether or not we are active or not. But put us into a western society where not much effort is required to survive and watch us get lazier and lazier.
Face it, the whole machine is a bit of a weird thing. The meek have inherited the earth, natural selection is not really applicable in a lot of ways anymore except for teh worst cases of genetic mutation. But frequently, the “weak” do better than the “strong” in our new societies. I wonder what kind of effect that is going to have after 1000 years or so.
I would say that earth stands a chance of being a real quiet planet eventually. 
I do have to agree that Chik-Fil-A is a very responsible corporation. And the food ain’t bad, neither.
the truth is somewhere in between. Corporations need to be regulated for extreme cases. This is where your example sort of fails more misfortune, unless you consider the tobacco companies.
I’m all for allowing someone to seel something as long as I have a complete choice to not be involved. For example, I think cigarettes should be heavily regulated, why? Because I have to walk through the clouds of second hand smoke on my way to work each morning.
However, if you can make lemonade with rat poison in it, advertise that there is rat poison in it, and people still want to drink it, then let them. As long as it can be show it doesn’t make it into my water supply, or afect my health in anyway other then by choice, I don’t care.
Of course I’m ok with you committing suicide if you want. I say go ahead , as long as its in a quiet, out of the way place and it doesn’t involve anyone else.
I tried to find some information about the appetite stimulation but can’t, so maybe I just imagined that I read it.
But as far as flavor enhancers is concerned, processed food has essentially no flavor. There is a whole strip of chemical factories along the New Jersey turnpike responsible for flavor enhancers. They know exactly which chemical combinations, for example, produce the flavor of caramel popcorn, chocolate chip cookies, and yes, even chargrilled hamburgers.
So, those hamburgers and french fries that taste sooooooo freakin good really just smell so freakin goooooooooooood that your taste buds orgasm. The food itself has hardly any taste at all.
I’m telling you that meat packing and distribution in the U.S. is self-regulated. Meat recalls are self-imosed by the packers. The FDA has inspectors at every plant who can call a work stoppage when they find evidence of tainted meat, but they cannot force a meat recall.
So, instead of arguing against that point with “as far as I know,” go read a book or two about it and get back with me.
That’s what I respect about Chik-Fil-A. They close all their stores because they are strictly religious and don’t believe in working on Sundays. While I am not christian, I respect them for putting their beliefs ahead of their wallets.
The other thing that is respectable about Chil-Fil-A is what it takes to buy the rights to franchise with them. They basically want insane background checks, financial information, etc. You have to prove your an extremely responsible citizen, etc. I’ve always been a fan of the business model.
As far as appetite enhancers being hormones it wouldn’t surprise me. The amount of hormones in things you pickup every day down at the local grocery store is already insane as it is.
-Will
Yep. I’ve looked into that too, hoping that someday they would become a public company. But as you said it takes alot to franchise one, which is why you don’t see them on every block of a busy street, unlike other chains I won’t mention.
MasterKiller, I was kidding about the sunday comment. I really do respect that alot. But it is usually sunday when I am saying “it sucks that cfa is closed on sundays”. Guess it’s one of those wanting what you can’t have things.
Exactly. It’s a shining example of a well run company that isn’t publically traded. They’ve not gone down that slippery path yet, although like yourself, I’d be one of the first to invest if I had the cash and they IPO’d.
It’s a business model I wish alot of startup companies would adopt. Screw wall street, screw corporate execs and their greedy pockets, just run your business on standards and don’t question your principals. The entire economy would grow stronger if only 25% of the companies thought that way.
I have to admit though, my perv mind kicks in when I go through the drive through and the chick on the other end says, “how may I serve you today”. Thank God it’s never a guy, that would be hard to take.
-Will
Actually that’s not exactly correct. They were cooked in vegetable oil. However, they were adding some kind of flavoring agent to the oil that was derived from beef. The hindus freaked out about it because they don’t eat anything with cow anything in it. They consider cows sacred…you know the whole Vishnu thing.
Here’s something about it:
http://www.compassionatespirit.com/McDonalds-Lawsuit-article.htm
I am not 100% sure of the details, only heard that he was actually healthier at the end of the 3 months than before. I think the point of it all was that the appropriate amount of exercise is the key. I will see if I can find more info.