I have always noticed a large similarity to many of BL’s JKD concepts and the teachings of Sun Tzu’s Art of War, I am just curious if anyone has noticed this as well. I feel that JKD is nothing new to the world, it has always been there. Much like Tao, not new to the world, just new to some people. Of course the Art of War is interperated on a larger, more military, scale. But it has, many times, been scaled to fit modern buisiness, art, game, martial qualities. I think JKD is a level of understanding one reaches at a point in their life. Of course not all reach this point. The beauty of Bruce is that he made it capable for people to reach this point through experimentation based on his concepts, which until now (disregarding Sun Tzu) has never been put into such detailed writings. Just looking for some feedback on this hypothosis.
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Very similar.
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At least, not 'til we have a steady base of traffic all our own.
Then it’ll be cool.
that’s not the end of the quote either.
We must look deeper at our own delusions to see what Bruce Lee was saying about our udnerstanding of martial art.
as an aside (perhaps)
My Master told me, “The only problem with Bruce Lee was that he forgot who he was talking to. You at least need the classical training to abandon it.”
sure you do. But he can still address all people with that sentence. He is telling people who ARE classically trained that the classical mess needs to be abandoned. He tells it to those who are not trained as a warning for them not to get caught up in it…
That seems like a reasonably accurate statement.
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Let me say this–As Oakland trained --Alot of what I see people call JKD!
We did not do that way.JKD dose mean intercepting Fist.
There is no interception in tan-pac-bil gee to thai -to kali ect.
I do enjoy doing these arts.But Bruce did say R.I.P. Classical man &
to repeat the verious arts in patterns & set ways.This is not the intent of the art.
We did simple motions & the program is way differant then others.I will post it
if you truely want to see it.Our terms are differant & ways were very Scientific-nontelegraphic motion that had(simplistic deployment & philosophicaly & self
exsploreation was adapted)
Im not knockin any styles as I enjoy kali-silat ect.
These were clearly not the intent of Bruce to cling to & claim as JKD.
Bruce stated ( If JKD is X & the style you represent is Y. To represent & teach y!You should drill its members according to the preachings of Y.Same for X!To justify the interfufusing of x & y is basicaly dinying of Y--But still calling it Y!A garden of roses can yeild only that!As will a garden of violets!:cool: :cool: :cool:
If you think of Karate don,t know where the ideas of reverse punch as being the main rear hand weapon. As there are so many rear hand attacks that it does not make sense only it if a fashion or popular thing for scoring point or something to see clear and not another technique that one cannot judge as scoring points.
The leads me to JKD, seen bruce lee use reverse punches, but not all the time and with all that frequency as karate does.
There are loads of usage of front legs kicks in the kata this is not exclusive JKD, but where JKd and karate different is the actual mention of principles and ways of attack.
But if one look close at the kata they are there, in fact hundreds of technique use in all sort of manner. How come one only see a few of those ie. reverse punches some kicks and no elbows or knees.
As they are there, this bring me to the point what the tactical method that karate is used surely it is the same a JKD.
Both have the same weapons, the boxing punches also exits in the kata, or similiar punches. There is even a fighting stance I don,t mean the sporting variety but the one in basai bai where the front knee points inwards like in JKD.
With all this background on Karate, so why did the classical mess of techinique that is a style of favourite strikes become associated with karate.
In boxing it is clearly defined, in muai thai similiar definition for that style. But in karate it has so many technique that you cannot define it with just some favourite one,s and say this is karate.
There deflection block, parries, but this is not seen as karate tactics but the major blocks are seen more as karate. The point is who made these rules about karate and view point.
If you use strikes and weapons as a tactical thing then you would have karate using JKD principles and tactics.
The lead kick to the shin this is nothing new as karate has that, even the lead punches, in the kata. Hook punches of boxing, upper cuts, also.
So who decides what is your karate or method you wish to use, the reason for limitation of weapons which is associated with karate.
There is trapping hand technique in karate in the kata but never used, there is throw, some jumping to avoid blows and flying techique.
The only thing that is missing is bobbing and weaving and slipping but it has that too in a different way.
Is it the way it is taught with all those tactics, techique and skills in different areas, why do we see karate as different from JKD apart from what you can add such as boxing techniques, and some weapons work also.
Does any one think that is one of the reason Bruce rated Mike stone a karate man and that Karate has more similarities to JKD that most think.
ahh, sure. Hey does anyone know why this forum is so inactive? It would certainly be nice to see some threads over here. There have to be some JKD guys here…
JKD is nothing (not to be meant as an insult). Bruce Lee said it himself. It was nice to read his thoughts, but they described HIS Journey. Take your own journey. Don’t study Jeet Kune Do, do what you think works for you. Bruce desired there even be no name for JKD. JKD teachers, products, and all else are doing a dis-service to what Bruce would have wanted. THat will probably be all I’ll ever need to post here for the previous reasons.