I do know of Kurt Wong. Well-respected, stellar reputation. But unfortunately, not there anymore. The dojo is, though.
[QUOTE=gummi;954442]Right. Not Asian, ethnicity or nationality. American, but trained at the Shaolin Temple since childhood. Doesn’t explain how he lives in America.[/QUOTE]
Complete and total sh it.
The Shaolin Temple as it exists today is a circus troupe. Very athletic men, but they are gymnasts and acrobats. The original temple was burned and the masters killed, any fan of chop socky flicks knows that.
And the open I gave you for there maybe being a secret family style? I take it all back.
Invite your sifu here if you like, otherwise please find a new location.
Good advise, all.
Last question - do you know of a lineage with Master Jeng and Master Tsu (Hunan, China)?
[QUOTE=gummi;954472]Good advise, all.
Last question - do you know of a lineage with Master Jeng and Master Tsu (Hunan, China)?[/QUOTE]
Common surnames, you would need to provide more. A quick google search for “master tsu hunan” came up with at least three names, though I am sure that is just scratching the surface.
Well, the story of an American trained from childhood in the Shaolin Temple pretty much proves the guy is a fraud, as it simply isn’t possible. Regardless of if a master Tsu and Jeng exist, your guy is a liar.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;954450]Hey, How come he gets to write bull****, and I can’t?[/QUOTE]
because you don’t know how to spell bullshit? 
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;954508]because you don’t know how to spell bullshit? ;)[/QUOTE]
I’ve had enough of your bullshit, buddy…
[QUOTE=gummi;954442]Right. Not Asian, ethnicity or nationality. American, but trained at the Shaolin Temple since childhood. Doesn’t explain how he lives in America.[/QUOTE]
the part that would actually need some explaining would not be how an American lives in Amercia, but how he ended up as a child living in the Shaolin temple :rolleyes:
anyway, that claim right there, if one knows anything about the state of Shaolin these days, would instantly embed the person making that claim into Willy Wonka’s World of Imagination;
and BTW, if he learned all his stuff at the Shaolin Temple, I mean, just take a look at any one of the literally hundreds of YouTube vids of actual authentic Shaolin stuff - it’s all very well documented what they taught there historically, it wouldn’t be anything that looks any different
save your time and money
[QUOTE=TenTigers;954439]“super-secret, hidden to western eyes?”
Let me hazard a guess…the Sifu is not Asian…am I right?[/QUOTE]
I don’t know what’s more disconcerting - that it is true, or that you knew it was true just by that one phrase 
[QUOTE=gummi;954421]Thanks for the responses. It is a bit confusing and I’m trying to work my way through it respectfully.
Is there Northern-style Lung?[/QUOTE]
If a car salesman sold you a lemon that blew up 5 minutes down the road would you be respectful?
If the building inspector that looked over our house before you bought it said it was good to go, but three months later you have an electrical fire because it wasn’t up to code…would you be respectful?
If a doctor prescribed you a drug without knowing your history and it nearly killed you would you be respectful?
These people are no different than any other jerk-off scam artist and why in the world you care to be respectful is beyond me. They don’t care about you. You gonna be nice to the guy that just mugged you at the atm too?
When I was around 14 or 15, we knew a guy who also said he had studied at Shaolin temple… Like most guys like this, the story wasn’t good enough “as is”. He was also “Spanish royalty” and he had ended up in Beijing because his uncle wanted to study Judo (no, I’m not making this up!)
I was only 14 and I already knew enough to ask a few basic questions
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You know that Shaolin Temple isn’t exactly in Beijing right?
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How were you there during the cultural revolution?
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If you were there for any length of time, how come you don’t know at least a FEW words in Chinese?
Of course, when my hing-dai went to China in 1984-85, he visited the temple, and at that time it was basicly a ruin and pretty empty… so much for being a secret shaolin judo monk 
You guys are just jealous and you don’t have any imagination and aren’t free spirits. You are all bound by your own world of illusion! If only you would bow down and take it where you need it, you would understand all the secrets and come to accept this super secret school as the real thing!
All you need to do is give up all your rational thought, free will, and responsibility to be one of the blessed. But it is clear you are not SPECIAL enough…so you will never know the secret teachings.
I know because I have done so…and LOOK what it did for me, [SIZE=“3”]Me,[/SIZE] [SIZE=“4”]ME![/SIZE]…[SIZE=“4”]HEE! HEE! HEE! Tweedle Dee Dee!!![/SIZE]
I think that Scot_ is jealous because he never got to be a Secret Shaolin Judo Monk…
I am the sole inheritor of Shaolin Judo! Whe I lived in Hong Kong I trained at the Shaolin temple and the abbott was Jigaro Kano’s grandson. He taught me the secret anti-grappling methods which allow you to maim and disable a BJJ expert on the ground, and then passed on to me his secret Kuen Po which can only be read with special glasses.
If anyone wishes to train with me you must first forsake all other martial arts training and forget what you think you know. You must then sell your house, give me the proceeds and live in my garage.
[QUOTE=Ben Gash;954538]I am the sole inheritor of Shaolin Judo! Whe I lived in Hong Kong I trained at the Shaolin temple and the abbott was Jigaro Kano’s grandson. He taught me the secret anti-grappling methods which allow you to maim and disable a BJJ expert on the ground, and then passed on to me his secret Kuen Po which can only be read with special glasses.
If anyone wishes to train with me you must first forsake all other martial arts training and forget what you think you know. You must then sell your house, give me the proceeds and live in my garage.[/QUOTE]
you had me sold until the part about selling my house - as if that’s gonna happen in this market! :mad:
besides, you may be the sole inheritor, but I am the secret sole inheritor; at least I was until I mentioned it here…
[QUOTE=JJMantis;954469]Complete and total sh it.
The Shaolin Temple as it exists today is a circus troupe. Very athletic men, but they are gymnasts and acrobats. The original temple was burned and the masters killed, any fan of chop socky flicks knows that.
Spoken like a person who only believes what he has read on the internet, in the movies and has not done his homework on Shaolin Temple.
[QUOTE=gummi;954442]Right. Not Asian, ethnicity or nationality. American, but trained at the Shaolin Temple since childhood. Doesn’t explain how he lives in America.[/QUOTE]
I have never heard of any American’s that have trained at Shaolin since childhood. If this was true he would have a Shaolin name. Could you give us that?
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Spoken like a person who only believes what he has read on the internet, in the movies and has not done his homework on Shaolin Temple.[/QUOTE]
Spoken like a veiled insult.
[QUOTE=sha0lin1;954540]
Spoken like a person who only believes what he has read on the internet, in the movies and has not done his homework on Shaolin Temple.[/QUOTE]
My best friend, the best man at my wedding, and Chan Tai San’s disciple, was THERE at Shaolin in 1985… it was in ruins and there were only 6 monks there, ALL OLD.
This was before the commercial venture we now know as “Shaolin” started…
Those are the facts, and if you don’t know them, you are the one who needs to do “homework”
[QUOTE=gummi;954440]My mission was not so much to talk about the particular school, but to discuss styles. There are very few resources to go to in my area.[/QUOTE]
Generally even the most secret styles have been given some type of public exposure. The world of martial art particularly traditional Chinese martial art is a very small world. If the teachers and their lineages are “secret” or something just doesn’t seem quite right it usually is a good indicator of a fraud being perpetrated. The contributors on this forum despite their lack of diplomacy are quite knowledgeable and could probably save you from wasting your time studying a style that amounts to made up nonsense.