i disagree about bjj being knee-problem free
there is info of peeps hurting their knees both on amateur and professional while doing bjj and not from knee locks
xing yi will use your knees… almost like fencing would, know wat im saying? several times ive had knee pains, course they would show up 1 day after trainin and on the next theyd be gone, but for someone with knee problem i think it could potentially be bad maybe.
i dunno if boxing and MT would be ok though, dunno about those
If we want to be truthful, knee injuries are just a fact of life in ANY high impact activity. Martial Arts, Basketball, Football, etc. all have their share of enthusiasts with knee problems. Deal with it or don’t play, I guess.
Since Shaolin-Do includes all Chinese martial arts, why can’t you just stick to a certain aspect of it and specialize?
Indeed. How’s about the aforementied Hsing-Ie of SD?
Greetings,
All martial arts will stress the knee to some degree. Try strengthening and stabilizing your knees; this is a must regardless of the discipline you choose.
There is one discipline that does not stress the knees: GUNS!!
Guns have direct application to street situations.
mickey
Hung Gar, mayhaps?
wow all these answered sucked bad.. not ONE person makes mention of aikido? Besides the traditional seiza at begining and end of classes u hardly use ur knees and i thnk is has 0 kicks since its the only MA that doesnt have atemi at all…
Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
plenty of those too. Seriously in all my years of wrestling and kickboxing I’ve never seen the nasty or numerous injuries as in judo.
If you didn’t see a ton of injuries in wrestling, you were not paying attention!
Whoever said “iado” they not only can’t spell iaido but also has no knowledge of same. The first three kata, which are essential for learning distancing, timing, and the connections between your hips and the rest of your body, not to mention building up the essential thigh muscles, all start on the knees and hurt like hell if you have any knee problems.
Tiger-Yin said aikido, forgetting shiyo (knee walking), hanmihandachi waza (one kneeling, one standing) and suwari waza (kneeling techniques), plus constantly dropping, getting thrown and getting up again in the pins and finishes. Plus the sweep in shiho nage and the sweep/hip slam in tenchi nage and irimi nage put a lot of stress on the knees while you are learning. And incidentally, a good aiki school will have atemi though you are right in saying most don’t learn any kicks.
Yang style taichi helped me a lot when my knees were ****ed (through aikido and falling out of a tree) in building up my leg muscles relaxedly.
Wing chun’s odd pigeon toed stance also strenghthens your thigh muscles and the muscle tissue around your knees a lot and the kicking techniques it involves are relatively easy on the joints.
Boxing’s good.
My hsing i type class involves a lot of excruciating deep stances which probably aren’t so good for your knees.
Shoot/sub wrestling’s good except for the actual shoot.
I have no other experience that will help you.
Originally posted by unkokusai
If you didn’t see a ton of injuries in wrestling, you were not paying attention!
In all fairness, he didn’t say that there weren’t a ton of injuries in wrestling - just that there were a ton more in judo.
Originally posted by Tiger_Yin
wow all these answered sucked bad.. not ONE person makes mention of aikido? Besides the traditional seiza at begining and end of classes u hardly use ur knees and i thnk is has 0 kicks since its the only MA that doesnt have atemi at all…
… Mat beet me to it. Aikido is a grappling art, for the most part. I have never seen a grappling art that didn’t torq the heck out of the lower body.
And trilobite’s suggestion of Hung Gar is hillarious. The new student focuses on extreme low horse stance for the first 6 months or so. That’d kill a person just recovering from a knee injury.
A friend of mine destroyed her knee last March. She’s been working with a very good sports injury theripist and is already running on it, though it has only been about 8 weeks since her last surgury. Perhaps you would do better to stick with your current art and work your way through the pain. The rehab will likely be shorter since you won’t be trying to learn a new art as well as learning your body’s new limitations.
its the only MA that doesnt have atemi at all…
Wow, then what did that Aikidoka hit me with?
In all fairness, he didn’t say that there weren’t a ton of injuries in wrestling - just that there were a ton more in judo.
You are correct FatherDog. fwiw, I wrestled kindergarten thru college. I’ve seen alot of wrestling.
Ride a bicycle.
Originally posted by FatherDog
In all fairness, he didn’t say that there weren’t a ton of injuries in wrestling - just that there were a ton more in judo.
All right, not to split hairs (which means of course that I shall) but “Seriously in all my years of wrestling and kickboxing I’ve never seen the nasty or numerous injuries as in judo.”, would seem to imply that there are not numerous or nasty injuries in wrestling or kickboxing. I get the point, but I believe there was some hyberpole involved.
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Face it Judge, you’re rooted.
Hari Kiri is pretty quick to learn, and doesn’t involve much practice…
Seriously, all the kicking arts require, well, you know.
The arts like Wing Chun, Pak Mei, Hung Gar, all require solid horse stances that put strain on the knees through stance.
Wrestling and Judo, ju-jitsu, require the body torque that transfers energy through the knees…
So, I would say, train your knee back up using physio, and then just do what you love the best you can. You’d be surprised what you can come back from.
Originally posted by Tiger_Yin
[aikido is] the only MA that doesnt have atemi at all
Aikido has atemi. In fact, Kenji Tomiki claims that a training methadology for atemi is one of the characteristic elements of aikido.
On the other hand, there are plenty of other martial arts with no atemi. The japanese-brazillian and euro-american grappling traditions come to mind, not to mention many weapon-based martial arts.
The knee is getting better, but I’m probably going to have an MRI on it to make sure. The stance work doesn’t bother my knee as much as the kicking and more dynamc moves so that’s something to consider.
Funny You Should Ask…
Originally posted by MasterKiller
I change my answer to Kung Fu. Who says you have to kick?
I have acheived moderate success in my MA training, despite my total inability to kick. I get slaughtered routinely by those skilled with their feet though. Most of my vulnerability is due to lack of balance, rather than solely the absence of kicking. Aikido, and Judo were not options because I have NO base what so ever. My only prayer in a real fight is to get the first shot, and make it count for everything. I will live or die by my punch. I’m focusing on Hsing I and hoping to add some boxing and grappling if the training opportunities present themselves. Hopefully I can hone one or two things well enough to save my ass if ever the need arises. Of course to do that I’ve got to get said ass to class and train. Grrr…I’ve been away MUCH longer than I would like. :mad:
Originally posted by Water Dragon
Yeah, except for the whole breaking knee thing they got going on.
that’s what tapping is for. In judo, you have all of the pulling and sudden turning, throws that may block the knee instead of below it, like tai otoshi, etc. It’s extremely rough on the the knees.