Nick Scrima`s 2004 Tournament

Sixth Annual International Chinese Martial Arts Championships in Orlando, July 2-4. Anyone planning to attend?

Two Kings of the Mantis World will be doing seminars:

Sun De Yao and Su Yu Chang.

I hope to meet some of you there.

YS

YS,
Is there a link to a web page for more info? Went to the Nick Scrima site, but not able to find any mention of it.
By the way, when did it get moved from the tampa/St. Pete area? I assume the attendance is better in Orlando.

tourn.

I think it got moved to orlando because of the florida kung fu association that nick and MC(wah lum) formed together. More wah lum people will probably go.

It’s funny how you can form an organization to unite your martial arts schools in your state but we(Pong lai) are not allowed into the association. What are the true reasons for forming the organization? To unite or to roll in the almighty$$$$$$$$$$$$?

18Elders, Yu Shan,

I’m planning on going. Hope to see you guys there!:cool:

So much for “Learn Kindness, Learn Fellowship…”, huh? =/

Martial artists can be really sad, sometimes.

18 elders, yu shan,

why don’t you guys go incognito, clean up-be happy. OR, as has been done before, quite amusingly i might add, go and do their forms but mix it up- say a "battle ax instead of an army sword! i mean the bridge is already burnt- finish the job- finish it…

p.s. atlanta southern, i lost your #

are we making a pong lai get together out of it?

is there sparring?

if so, what ruleset?

i have a 3 day weekend that weekend so it’s very possible.

I’ll be sleeping under my truck and catching alligators to eat, however…very poor right now.

flem

i was going to use two brooms and do double broadsword.
I fugure i can sweep the floor with that one!! haha

Oso-here is a link to the tournament
http://www.kungfuchampionship.com/

www.kungfuchampionship.com

4time, Oso

Go to site above gives all the details.

Im glad its held in Otown, more to do in the area. I plan on visiting TaiChiBob and JoeMantis & their respective schools. My in-laws are in Kissimmee, so Oso, if you dont mind Puerto Rican cuisine (free). If your stuck on the gator… plenty of lakes filled with these critters.

Flem

We are going in… stealth :slight_smile:

thanks for the link 18e.

looks like basic san shou…which I’ve never fought before but hadn’t done lei tai till last month…see sig below…

ok, time to get my ass in gear.

I think I’m going to do another Lei Tai fight in June in Charlotte.
And maybe some san shou there.

if it’s free food I’m there…

We are going in… stealth

uhh, didn’t you just blow cover???

:wink:

Thanks Yu Shan,

   Will be a spectator this year, even though I would like to do the mantis seminars.

    Even though I'm a newbi, I would like to meet the Pong lai people, and this will be a good chance because your going to be at the same place.

     Did not know Nick Scrima and Wah lum had formed an association. I have trained at both, and met some great people. I hope all schools/ groups in Florida will be welcome in the future.

I will be going to the tournament and competing in the novice women’s adult category. It’s my first tournamnet and I’m still newto kung fu (only doing it about a year). Needless to say I’m pretty nervous (and excited). What is it like to compete in this or any competition for that matter? I’ll just be doing a form, Little Open Gate.

nice avatar, Green_Tea.

IMHO, people will tell you about being nervous and possible ways to shake the jitters but it’s tough to do so. You will be nervous and it will affect your performance. Irrelevant of how you do you will know if competing ‘‘does it’’ for you. If you get jacked enough by competition then you will do it again and only by competing on a regular basis will you get used to the nervousness and be able to work with it.

Good luck and maybe we’ll see ya there.

For me, I listen to Green Day’s “Dookie” and pace a lot. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the words. Hmmm, maybe if I can get a song that I really like stuck in my head it might calm me down… At first I dind’t want to compete because I was afraid it would make me ****y (regardless of how good I was) and make me loose sight of why I did kung fu in the first place. But I guess we’ll see. I’m not expecting to win anything, I just figure all this effort my sifus and sihings are putting into really teaching me Little Open Gate will benefit me in other ways.

Oh hah hah, I guess they thought I was cursing and gave me astricks (sp?) instead. I said I didn’t want to become arogant.

sometimes the editor is a bit indiscriminate.:wink:

competition teaches you to perform under pressure. unless you go out and try to get into fights (not recommended) it may be the most high pressure situation you will be forced to use your skills in.

Green Tea,
Good luck on your first Tourny.
The scary part is performing and being judged by strangers.
You probably know that performing in front of strangers often will erase this fear.
One of my brothers, John Scolaro, would do his sets in public, like in front of a restaurant where people were watching.
He would do this with no provocation and we all felt it was somewhat odd.
But he had no inhibition and so when he went to tournaments he walked on stage like he owned the place.

One of his first shows was in front of about 300 spectators. He forgot the form in the middle and from there made up a form on the spot.

I think that was becasue he was often performing in front of people so he didn’t feel too nervous that he couldn’t improvise.
Though he was a little nervous to forget the form.

Yushan 18 elders and crew.
What is wrong with going incognito.
Then change T-shirts after you get some trofies?

won’t yu shan, 18elders and pong lai be known already?

green_tea

good luck-don’t get discouraged if you don’t win. the problem with tournaments is not all judges are familiar with your material or sometimes i think they don’t have a clue about anything.
Alot of judges score high on the flashy crap, and acrobatic stuff. I look at the martial aspect of it. if you have no power or jing you lose points on my scoring. Do your form at a nice speed, put some power and spirit in your form, hold some good stances for a split second, do your form like your kicking someone’s butt. Alot of Wler’s do well in tournaments but i think it is just a bunch of flash with no martial substance.
Little open gate is nice, do good low stances and put spirit into it.

My shrfu(american but lived in taiwan for 10 years and speaks chinese like we was born chinese), he was judging a tournament here once and he scored the guy low. The performer’s teacher(chinese) started complaining to another student (speaking chinese) thinking my teacher didn’t understand him. My shrfu got up and went over to him and told him in chinese he scored him low because there was no spirit just a bunch of flashy crap. The other guy was shocked because he didn’t think my shrfu understood him.
Unfortunately alot of flashy crap wins.

Good luck anyways, practise your form facing different directions in your school and also diagonally so you don’t get stuck in a different environment.

Tainan-at chinese new year, shrfu told me to go perform leepi, i had just finished learning it, i started it but was so used to bung bu that i went into it, then i did a section of 18 elders and then ended with the last road of ba bu lien huan. Needless to say shrfu had a good laugh!! He said i told you to do leepi, not everything!!!

My personal objective behind supporting this Martial Arts venue is “fellowship”, and “learn kungfu”. Hopefully some smoothing of a strained relationship between two groups can be met, and let by gones be by gones. Also, the opportunity to meet and train with these Mantis Greats is an advantage. Knowing my Shifu, he will also tell me to compete. At my age, I have nothing to prove. Competition bores me, and I would be perfectly happy to settle with learning and teaching.

TM, Flem

Wasnt there a story about John and Leroy busting out Wah Lums two-man form outside a movie theater following some fake verbal altercation? I could see it…