Dreamkil…er…I mean, Masterkiller. When you say: “it is hinted that they are losing their connection to the Force. This is because they blindly trust science and machines…”.
Did you also mean to add that Jedi are hereby and henceforth to be renamed “tree huggin’ hippies”?
I can’t stand it…
In the name of all that HOLY, why didn’t they just leave the first three movies alone!
Master Killer - “Ewok, shmee-wok. They are important because they are technologically ignorant.”
Think how much cooler it would have been had that been a planet of wookies as originally planned…
Lucas rejected my script for:
Predator Vs. Ewok
What a lameo!
Originally posted by Radhnoti
Did you also mean to add that Jedi are hereby and henceforth to be renamed “tree huggin’ hippies”?
They learn that sentient creatures are luminous beings which are not bound by physical constraints. You call it hippy, I call it Pop-Buddhism. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Think how much cooler it would have been had that been a planet of wookies as originally planned…
True. But I also agree with Lucas that Chewbacca had been shown to be too smart and technologically savvy, which would take away from the emphasis of Nature vs Technology in the Battle of Endor. Really, this is the most important theme of all the movies. Notice how the Imperial ships and machines keep getting Bigger and Bigger as the movies progress? The huge, powerful, and evil Mechanized Empire falls at the hands of a group of rag tag rebels and some silly little teddy bears that remain close to nature. In the end, the Force is more powerful than any Death Star. To quote Vader: “Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.”
Besides, the opening scene of EP III is the Battle of Kashyyk, where the wookies get to whoop some @ss.
Just what the world needed.
A film showing “hippy-power”.
I can hear 'em in the theatres now. “You see Moon-Puppy-Love’s-Hope? I told you that the evil machine-lovers would burn in a fiery hades by the end of the films.”
Originally posted by Radhnoti
[B]Just what the world needed.
A film showing “hippy-power”.
I can hear 'em in the theatres now. “You see Moon-Puppy-Love’s-Hope? I told you that the evil machine-lovers would burn in a fiery hades by the end of the films.”
[/B]
In EP III, the Empire wins.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
In EP III, the Empire wins.
As you already know(force.net geek;) ), they’ve already got James Earl Jones contracted for voice over.
I will be so happy when that bratty little kid gets denied the best Vader line of the three new films.
I’m not fond of the new three, but I’ll still see the newest one once it comes out. They have enough of the old stuff in there to give me hope for a good ending to it all, if a geeky one.
I don’t think the main moral is technology is bad. Look at all the technology Lucas uses to create the movies. I love technology. I love my central air conditioner in the summer and my heating in the winter. Technology makes that possible.
I think moral is sometimes people become jaded and over complicate things. This is probably contributed to basic human nature. I think the same problem occurs in martial arts. People write a 30 page disertation on a straight punch. Describing all the science behind the punch. They often forget that a punch is pretty simple, especially a straight punch. Its from point A to B for the most part.
The jedi have all this science and technology and feel it can all be explained and broken down into this complicated science. This is because they view themselves as real sophisticated beings, so they justify all this technology they have created. They are sophisticated and advanced so this science they have discoverd must be true, then they marvel in their greatness not realizing how jaded they have actually become.
Its sad to say, but I have even met some Martial artists like this. I guess it really is basic human nature.
BTW, Masterkiller have you seen the internet video Art of the sabre? Two brothers filmed it with a camcorder and added some computer FX. I believe they were Wushu (contemporary) practioners. I think it looks better than a lot of actual star wars footage of light sabre fights.
Here is a link to their site:
http://www.theforce.net/theater/fxprojects/artofthesaber/index.shtml
You should check it out its really cool. I heard that after this video got circulated both brothers were hired by sony to do motion capture for some of the jedi video games.
Originally posted by Gangsterfist
I don’t think the main moral is technology is bad. Look at all the technology Lucas uses to create the movies. I love technology. I love my central air conditioner in the summer and my heating in the winter. Technology makes that possible.
I think moral is sometimes people become jaded and over complicate things. This is probably contributed to basic human nature. I think the same problem occurs in martial arts. People write a 30 page disertation on a straight punch. Describing all the science behind the punch. They often forget that a punch is pretty simple, especially a straight punch. Its from point A to B for the most part.
The jedi have all this science and technology and feel it can all be explained and broken down into this complicated science. This is because they view themselves as real sophisticated beings, so they justify all this technology they have created. They are sophisticated and advanced so this science they have discoverd must be true, then they marvel in their greatness not realizing how jaded they have actually become.
I agree. Technology in of itself isn’t bad. Total reliance on technology is. Afterall, their main weapon is a lightsaber, which is a complicated piece of equipment. Balance is the issue. In the prequels, they don’t have it.
BTW, Masterkiller have you seen the internet video Art of the sabre? Two brothers filmed it with a camcorder and added some computer FX. I believe they were Wushu (contemporary) practioners. I think it looks better than a lot of actual star wars footage of light sabre fights.
I’ve seen it. It’s pretty awesome, but I still like “Duality” better. That ending rocks where they both fall in pieces.
wookie vs. ewok
The whole ewok thing was because Lucas wasn’t technically capable to do some wookie battel scene finale - couldn’t find enough tall people, so he went short. Ewok is wookie spelled sideways. Now he can do it digitally, so it’ll be interesting to see if he can actualize his initial vision.
Star Wars gave us the ‘force’ and the jedi. That was a brilliant metaphor, a derivation of Joseph Campbell’s work. That alone makes it worthwhile. Plus, if you were old enough to remember when the original opened, you know how it changed culture, but that was back in the day. You’d have to be old school to remember. That was when you’d have to sit through 2 hours of crappy animation just to see a minute or two of computer animation, and it would totally blow your mind.
man that art of the sabre was mad cool. I saved that ish to my harddrive. Does anyone know how hard it is to put those affects in?
Depends on your computer knowledge. If you get interested I recomend picking up one of the class room in a book series of the application you choose to edit and do special effects. My roomate does some film work and he uses premeire and he learned all from that book. I have done some editing work before and its not that hard once you get to know the program.
hmmm frame by frame? I guess it would make a good summer project then
thansk for the info.
DO you have the link to the other one MK with the people falling apart?
so adobe premiere and after effects can do most the stuff?
Yeah adobe makes good stuff that is not all that hard to learn.
If you want to get real advanced look at video toaster (for PC) and Final cut Pro (for Mac). But those are more costly, and believe me it gets costly.
strong bad gave me some pencil sharpenings as cash. good thing adobe takes them …
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail96.html
I hope they focus a little on the bounty hunters’ role. It’d be cool if alongside boba fett they had some cool and powerful bounty hunters.
It would almost be as if the jedi were the TCMA practitioners and the bounty hunters were the MMA practitioners. Either that or a slight similarity to the boxer rebellion, a new power takes over and attempts to purge that which could potentially cause or seed a re-coup.
I read that the fight scene between obi wan and anakin is one of the longest if not THE longest fight scene/duel in film history, something like 12min+, and that the choreographer(sp?) amalgamated several traditional sword martial arts styles to develop the techniques for the fight.
I also heard there is shadow talk of sequels as well, that may focus more on wookies, at least chewbacca.
The sith rule anyway
the longest fight scene ever was in “they live” between roddy piper and keith david. the nature of the fight?
“where these sunglasses.”
“no.”
“c’mon. you’ll see something really interesting.”
“no.”
smack
and this begins about 84 minutes of fighting on urban streets and alleys.
Originally posted by rubthebuddha
[B]the longest fight scene ever was in “they live” between roddy piper and keith david. the nature of the fight?
“where these sunglasses.”
“no.”
“c’mon. you’ll see something really interesting.”
“no.”
smack
and this begins about 84 minutes of fighting on urban streets and alleys. [/B]
dude that movie was awesome. 
MK that one duality was cool, but i like the fight scenese in the sabre one better. thanks though i saved that one to my hd too.
Longest fight scene ever? Maybe longest sword fight…
I think that Jet Li, in Fist of Legend does a longer scene than 12 minuets when he fights the japanese guy at the end. They fight around the whole complex and then some more. I am sure it was around 15 to 17 minutes.
however, I have no proof I will have to watch it when I get home and time it.