Thank Abobo & Iron
Your commemts make alot of since. I will incorporate more pulling in the workout and cut out some of the working of the same muscle group… thanks for you help all
Shen Zhou
I’m happy to accept correction and new information but, because I like to know or understand on a deeper level, I ask more qusetions and try on other alternatives. By immaturity, I mean that, I am usually a busy gal and at least I give you benifit of the doubt for the experience you claim. You rant on about how I am all lies and unfortunately the information rarely even gets considered. What is so god*ammed hard to believe??!!??
I hate narrow mindedness and judgementalism even more 
ridiculed or not, alot of you just seem uninformed and silly yourself… but I have stuff to say and querey, so I’m just going to go ahead and learn and share a lil.
Thanks for the phsychological thought provocer though, because your mentality, proccessing skill and understanding is a point of discussion in itself.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
I’m happy to accept correction and new information but, because I like to know or understand on a deeper level, I ask more qusetions and try on other alternatives. By immaturity, I mean that, I am usually a busy gal and at least I give you benifit of the doubt for the experience you claim. You rant on about how I am all lies and unfortunately the information rarely even gets considered. What is so god*ammed hard to believe??!!??
You are so full of shit. What about the recent spelling and grammar discussion? You repeatedly refused to accept correction and new information. You gave no-one the benefit of the doubt, not us nor any of the university websites we referenced. Instead you went with “your logic”, which was wrong all along. And you claim to teach? I pity your students.
I do give the benifit of the doubt that your quals and information was what you’ve read, learnt or theorised on good grounds. I still disagree about the logic of ownership apostrophe use, and my spelling mistakes are probably greatly due to alcohol. big deal, doesn’t mean the content lacks merit. It’s tough out here and I’m drinking a lil,.so sue me. I know alot of really well educated folks who do worse and still have valid information to pass on ( but we won’t talk about your own previous mind warping speed addiction because I value good or different information from any source) …
Ps: yes, still teaching and feeling the love from my skill;)
Originally posted by blooming lotus
I still disagree about the logic of ownership apostrophe use, and my spelling mistakes are probably greatly due to alcohol.
Who said it’s logical? English is hardly a logical language. But it’s correct. Also, you can’t say that correcting 7* by saying “coming” should be “comming” and citing your imaginary rule is a spelling mistake. That’s poor understanding of the subject you’re supposed to be teaching, at university level no less. Poor students. At least it somewhat explains the reasons behind Chinglish.
and I admitted I may’ve screw*d up on that one…I can accept being wrong.and yourself??
Still isn’t a blanket confession though and by no means comprimises anything else I have to say.like when I occassionally prove yourself wrong, so omfg you’re human!!! :rolleyes: big deal…moving on…you were saying??
Originally posted by blooming lotus
and I admitted I may’ve screw*d up on that one…
Really? I never saw it. And I tried really hard to help you out in that other thread. Repeatedly. With examples. And evidence.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
… I can accept being wrong.and yourself??
I’m never wrong ;). Seriously, I’m often wrong. Just not as often as you :p.
like the “evidence” provided for the ownership apostrophe?? really??.well I just checked the apostrophe thing with another native NZ teacher and he logicises and uses it the same!!!..
you’re not often wrong ha??.. good to know :rolleyes: …wouldn’t be a mere mortal either right??
People f*ck up sometimes. big deal???
So you still deny the facts of apostrophes being used to indicate possession? I thought you just said:
Originally posted by blooming lotus
I admitted I may’ve screw*d up on that one…
Originally posted by blooming lotus
like the “evidence” provided for the ownership apostrophe?? really??.well I just checked the apostrophe thing with another native NZ teacher and he logicises and uses it the same!!!..
Well, if he logicises I wouldn’t put much faith in his opinion. He’s allowed to use apostrophes for contraction. Does he also (like you) deny the existence of the possessive form? Interesting. I hope he doesn’t teach English as well.
when I said I may’ve messed up , I was referring to correct spelling of coming / commming, but I just did a spell check on each way and each came up as correct. Who gives a damm anyway??
and now you’re telling me that not only am I , a qualified and educator wrong, but so are my collegaues when you’re not even learned in this field yourself??? Ahha, really taking your advice over the educated contingent :rolleyes: 
…what would we do without you??
Apostrophes indicate missing letters, and sometimes posession.
“Toby’s” means either:
- Something in possession by Toby
- Some missing letters, like “Toby is” or “Toby has,” etc.
“It’s” means IT IS and is NOT possessive.
“Its” is possessive.
Examples:
It’s going to rain. (it is)
Toby robbed a bank and stole its money. (something belonging to it)
hmm…
.are you agreeing with me Ironfist???
Ps: you do realise that your last post is in direct opposition to what nearly everyone else here would have people believe??:eek: :o 
Originally posted by blooming lotus
when I said I may’ve messed up , I was referring to correct spelling of coming / commming, but I just did a spell check on each way and each came up as correct.
Reference? I just pulled down ed. Pearson, J., The Concise Oxford Dictionary, 10th Ed., 1999, Oxford University Press p284:
come … [as adj. coming]…
No reference to comming BECAUSE IT’S NOT A WORD. While I was at it, same reference p62:
apostrophe a punctuation mark (') used to indicate either possession (e.g. Harry’s book) or the omission of letters or numbers (e.g. can’t; 1 Jan. '99).
Does the Oxford English dictionary get both these wrong? And I should believe you over it? The Oxford English Dictionary is arguably the definitive reference for the language. Not that I needed it to tell me you’re wrong. What was your reference again?
Originally posted by blooming lotus
Who gives a damm anyway??
Your students? Surely they want to be learning correct information instead of Eyebrows gibberish.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
and now you’re telling me that not only am I , a qualified and educator wrong, but so are my collegaues when you’re not even learned in this field yourself??? Ahha, really taking your advice over the educated contingent :rolleyes:
Yes, despite your remarkable qualifications as “a qualified and educator” :rolleyes:, you are so 100% wrong on this.
With Iron’s case, “its” is AFAIK the only case in which possession isn’t indicated by an apostrophe. Another example of the less-than-logical English language. His other example “Toby’s”, shows the two cases of normal usage of apostrophes. He’s not in opposition to what everyone else is saying. He’s illustrating a SPECIAL CASE. But keep grasping at straws.
Can’t hold back
Fuck you’re a moron.
and you are understudied… agree to disagree ??.can you be that grown???
No, I won’t. That’d be conceding that you may be right, which isn’t the case. What exactly am I understudied in? I studied high school English Literature mainly as a necessity for university entrance. I hate humanities, so didn’t take it further. I’m an engineering graduate and postgraduate student approaching the end of a PhD term. Now you: what qualifications do you have in English? Can you provide one reputable reference to support “comming” or “possessive apostrophe usage is wrong”? Didn’t think so.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
and you are understudied… agree to disagree ??.can you be that grown???
No one will agree to disagree because there is no room for difference. One is completely correct and the other is completely wrong. No grey area to agree to disagree over.
YOU ARE WRONG!
Again.
okay narrow minded dude… of course in the grown up world you make alot of sense yourself … whatever you say babe :rolleyes:
thanks for another meaningful comment
Originally posted by blooming lotus
okay narrow minded dude …
Narrow-minded? Because we fail to embrace lunacy? Fair enough, then. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by blooming lotus
… of course in the grown up world you make alot of sense yourself …
Do you have evidence that he doesn’t? Strikes me, Serpie probably has a lot to offer in real life, just like in forum land. You, OTOH, have nothing, based on your forum persona.
Thanks, Tobes.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
[B]okay narrow minded dude… of course in the grown up world you make alot of sense yourself … whatever you say babe :rolleyes:
thanks for another meaningful comment [/B]
bl, accepting proven fact and dismissing proven wrongness is not being narrow-minded. It’s living in the real world - somewhere you obviously need a large map drawn with bright crayons to find.