That’s bull$hit and I hope you are wise enough to know why.
CaptainPickAx now has a rearanged nose, this other guy has a black eye. Yes, martial arts has prevented me from having to engage in full out fights in the past. Not too long ago a big guy grabbed me at an after hours and the way I handled it showed he should calm down a bit… and he did. Problem solved.
But people actually striking you? You let them? Because it displays the inner peace you gained as a martial artists?
My friend, you are so lost even the phony balogna meditation you are referring to can’t help. Do us all a favor and stop saying you study martial arts. Take up yoga, knitting. But to train in a combat system and state the above? I just don’t get it.
Maybe you think if you just lie there they will be nice enough and stop after while, when THEY think you’ve had enough. Good technique! Is that shaolin?
I agree with EF. Like I said in my previous post… I reacted in much the same way in highschool. I don’t know why but most of the time that was just the reaction of my body and mind… to not react and take it. I don’t know why I did some times to defend myself and not others. I don’t think me just “accepting” the attack has anything to do with training, as my only training was wrestled, and everything to do with how my mind works.
Originally posted by EvolutionFist
[B]That’s bull$hit and I hope you are wise enough to know why.
CaptainPickAx now has a rearanged nose, this other guy has a black eye. Yes, martial arts has prevented me from having to engage in full out fights in the past. Not too long ago a big guy grabbed me at an after hours and the way I handled it showed he should calm down a bit… and he did. Problem solved.
But people actually striking you? You let them? Because it displays the inner peace you gained as a martial artists?
My friend, you are so lost even the phony balogna meditation you are referring to can’t help. Do us all a favor and stop saying you study martial arts. Take up yoga, knitting. But to train in a combat system and state the above? I just don’t get it.
Maybe you think if you just lie there they will be nice enough and stop after while, when THEY think you’ve had enough. Good technique! Is that shaolin? [/B]
Its kinda hard to dodge/block a punch in my situation. I’ve told this story before, so its old news. There were 4 factors to my crooked nose:
I was drunk
Multiple Advasaries
White belt in Shaolin-Do with no previous Martial Experience
The strike was a blindside attack.
Now, I don’t know who that last statement about quiting martial arts was aimed at, so I’m letting that sit on the sidelines right now. I don’t have crooked nose because I let some chump smack me around. Its because I stood up in the face of opposition and broke it’s nose, opposition’s cousin to the right of me was the cause of my crooked nose.
and that is why today, I wouldn’t of fought. I try to never put myself in a situation where I’m out numbered.
multiples … OK, nothing you can do about that. That’s the variable.
White belt (nothing you can do about that either) in Shaolin Do,.
Blind sided … strike two. How does someone get behind, next to you unoticed? Training, training, awereness, awereness.
Nobody wants to engage multiples. Few want to fight one on one anyway. But once they start, you have to deal with it. Chosing to do nothing is a bad choice. Defending enough to clear an escape is at least something. Don’t rely on the other’s compassion. HELP YOURSELF!
Sorry to hear about your past experience. To me, that is more motivation to learn to control a violent situation, not turn my back on it and hope it goes away.
I live in NY and spend more time in places that I shouldn’t be by myself but nothing ever happens. Watch your surroundings and peoples’ behavior. Notice the roudy drunks up the block and cross. Notice a train car packed with youths late at night and get in another car. Get that glass bottle of Snapple for the short walk to the subway … makes people think, maybe even twice. Buy a Spyder Co pocket knife … very inexpensive. I never want to use it, but I’ll pull it if confronted by two, let alone 5. You never know the other guy’s heart. They may have no thought about leaving you for dead. Two childhood class mates (karate) died to pipes to the head in Newark. The other guys just didn’t stop.
Hope for the best and to surrounded by kindness. Prepare for the worst and for malicious intent.
ok i wasn’t tottally drunk but i wasn’t totally sober so thats strike one for me.
"4) Blind sided … strike two. How does someone get behind, next to you unoticed? Training, training, awereness, awereness.
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in my situation they were getting off the training, most of the group were either off the train or by the door behind me. one of the first ones that got off even said merry christmas as he was getting off (i think he was a bit embarrassed of his drunken mates) so my “alert level” kinda went down. we didn’t go to a different carriage because their weren’t many seats and my mate really needed to sit down.
if i had the chance i would’ve wanted to have kept one of them on and chuck them off at a station they dont know (it was the last train) rather than beat the crap out of them. but that didn’t happen so im not gonna think about it too much. i’ve learnt alot from this situation and i consider myself lucky to have learnt this lesson without getting hurt too much (it could’ve been alot worse!!).
I dunno cos I wasn’t there but it looks like you did the appropriate thing given your situation. It isn’t always appropriate to fight back.
One example, we crossed a road one night on the way home from the pub (I wasn’t remotely drunk, one of my friends, a big dangerous ex-army, ex-violent offender with a known short fuse and disregard for safety, was). A car with undetermined occupants swerved across a lane of traffic at us, just for the hell of it. We had to dive off the road and the car mounted the kerb. I wasn’t too bothered: it was just badly judged high jinks, but if I could have, I would have taken their registration number down.
My friend on the other hand, picked up a bottle from the street and threw it, very accurately I must say, bouncing it off their back window. They swerved again and continued at the same stupid speed.
We turned the corner. Next thing we know (although about 4/5 mins later - enough for us to have calmed down, weighed up and dismissed the possibility that we were being followed) the car comes screeching round the corner and to a halt, and (can’t remember how many: this was about ten years ago… but) a group of these kids (the oldest was probably 19 or so) jumped out or came running round the corner.
My big hard friend buggered off sharpish! lol
Now, I started running too; they hadn’t stopped the car too close, so we had a bit of a start and I was a school running champion… but my friend (the only female of the group) was wearing para boots and ironically, they were too heavy for her to run in. So she stopped. So what am I gonna do? I stopped too.
So now there’s me and a girl (in good heavy boots at least ) surrounded by at least 6 kids in the middle of a side road, two of whom were considerably bigger than me, and one of whom had picked up a stick in the chase.
BTW, I agree with you Scotty, a lot of people seem to use pikeys to mean scallies, townie thugs and kids gangs…
some of them probably equate to the terms ‘trailer trash’/‘white trash’ in the States. Some of them are maybe more inner-city. Some of them are real pikies… which BTW are usually descendants of Irish gypsies I think, not Scottish.
yeah i prefer the term scallies to townies. townies means something a bit different to me (but they all kinda cross over). i know alot of people confuse the term pikey (i used to), but these didn’t seem like scallies. normaly i can understand scallies but these guys spoke and looked like proper pikies. when they spoke you couldn’t make out whether they were having a go at you or trying to sell you a caravan!
He chi blasted the biggest one, demonstrating to the group that he was now the alpha male. The rest were to bown down and follow his lead, or suffer the fate of their fallen leader.
Lst time something like that happened to me, CPA and myself had had waaaaaay too much to drink, and we were at a rich kid party. Needless to say, I dont have very much respect for the rich kids around here. Or anywhere for that matter. Their attitudes are just all wrong for the most part.
Anyhoo, I still dont remember how it happened, I just know that some sort of altercation occured, and myself and CPA were hurling insults at a group of about 15 people… They kept their distance and talked ****, and one of our sober friends ushered us quickly out the back realizing that we were drunk enough to fight all 15 at once.
Im glad they pushed us out the back tho… I was too drunk to accurately punch a wall.
Oh yeah… I think they got mad cause me and CPA tried to steal their keg. Hehehehe… Silly drunk me and cpa…
Originally posted by Meat Shake He chi blasted the biggest one, demonstrating to the group that he was now the alpha male. The rest were to bown down and follow his lead, or suffer the fate of their fallen leader.
Jesus Shake, as you were obviously there I hope you would have helped out if my chi blast had failed!
I was asking what YOU would do!!! Well, more specifically, the all-prepared Mr Evolution Fist.
) surrounded by at least 6 kids in the middle of a side road, two of whom were considerably bigger than me, and one of whom had picked up a stick in the chase.